Did you go with Microsoft DOTD - Free Windows 10?

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Anyone else made the move?
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I struggled with "Something happened - Windows 10 installation failed" then finally succeed after couples of trial and errors.
Opted for a safe way to experiment with it as it is running on a VMWare guest. I'll toy with it there for a while.
I'm not welling to convert my beloved, perfectly healthy and reliable current installation to Win10 yet.
 
My dad and I decided to let my younger brother be the guinea pig and try it out first. Took him a few hours to get it installed and up and running, but finally did, with no loss of data. Having said that, he probably switched back to Windows 8 within a half hour of using 10. He said it was wicked glitchy and not really usable at this point. I'd say it's too new. Give it a bit for them to release some "service packs" or whatever they call their bandaids now. I know I'm waiting before I switch.
 
Anyone who moves to a new Microsoft operating system in its first year of issue is taking their lives and their data into their hands. Microsoft doesn't need beta testers. They've got all of us to experiment on . . . except for those who refuse to work for them for free. Oh, and just for the record, I started with DOS 2.0. I know whereof I speak.
 
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Oh, and just for the record, I started with DOS 2.0. I know whereof I speak.

I started before that, and yes, never, ever, use a new OS as soon as it comes out, give it at least a year. I usually give it 2 years. Why change your OS, if everything is fine?
 
Good for you. My first computer was a Texas Instruments TI-99/4A. I graduated from that to Franklin Ace 1000 and then from there to a Panasonic Sr. Partner. The Panasonic was my first foray into Microsoft operating systems.
 
Good for you. My first computer was a Texas Instruments TI-99/4A. I graduated from that to Franklin Ace 1000 and then from there to a Panasonic Sr. Partner. The Panasonic was my first foray into Microsoft operating systems.

OG stuff. I started on a TRS 80 in 1980 in middle school...lol
 
I started before that, and yes, never, ever, use a new OS as soon as it comes out, give it at least a year. I usually give it 2 years. Why change your OS, if everything is fine?

I totally agree - That's why I installed it on a virtual machine. I can get to know it without risking productivity and valuable data. I don't know what little brother tried that glitched. Mine is pretty stable but doesn't have much on it to begin with.

Good for you. My first computer was a Texas Instruments TI-99/4A. I graduated from that to Franklin Ace 1000 and then from there to a Panasonic Sr. Partner. The Panasonic was my first foray into Microsoft operating systems.

You are bringing back weird memories. I recall the T-99. Around that time I spent all my summer earnings to buy a HP-41CV and few years later I got the 41CX. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP-41C

That was my first contacts with programming languages. Ended up in software engineering at University after. Then made a career in information security.

Thanks for the late 70s/early 80s flashback!
 
OG stuff. I started on a TRS 80 in 1980 in middle school...lol

LoL - Did you use audio tapes to make backups?
The local University was broadcasting on FM. During the day it was the usual University Radio.

But late night when supposed to be off the air was that FAX like noise.
The computer nerds were broadcasting TRS 80 Games during the night.
Call it Pirate Radio - From 2AM to 4AM they were starting with a solid beep (get the cassette recorder ready - set - go)
One game between each solid beep. Was not working half the time - So reruns for 3 days before changing the game set.
 
Just asked the bro what was up. He told me he'd lost all multi-touch abilities, clicking was laggy, and some of the pop-up menus and windows would come up, then immediately disappear, among other things. Sounds like driver issues to me, and for all I know, it could be limited to Asus machines. It's really just the normal stuff you'd expect when releasing software without proper testing...
 
LoL - Did you use audio tapes to make backups?

LMAO...yea, sure did!

Actually, I forgot, I actually started on the IBM keypunch computers (HIUS 3162), anyone remember those? before the TRS 80...duh, how did I forget that?
 
Anyone who moves to a new Microsoft operating system in its first year of issue is taking their lives and their data into their hands. Microsoft doesn't need beta testers. They've got all of us to experiment on . . . except for those who refuse to work for them for free. Oh, and just for the record, I started with DOS 2.0. I know whereof I speak.


They are just trying to retain market share because they have been loosing ground lately. Think of it like the Saudis in an oil glut tied to OPEC about now. You loose market share (via Iran into oil market) and when things are about to get competative you want your market share regardless of its present value. I dont think they are doing it for "free". They need to keep the market share they have had for the last 30 years.

Windows 10 is better than Windows 8 and 95% of the population will suck it up for nothing more than its "free". Microsoft will get valuable feedback for minimal liability and almost assuredly a "service pack" will be available post rollout for "free". They need to sell it now to save face and fix it later if needed. "Give the people what they want" Yeah right? They need to capture new technology like touch screen, social networking protocol, graphics, "cloud" technology etc. and this may be their last bastion of hope to keep their market share.

Ive been working in the computer industry all my life and what the public reads and hears is "Hollywood" like anything else.

bld522: Let me know if you need any help with your newfangled software:D. I have working processors, math coprocessors, chipsets, controllers, graphics, and BIOS for the original motherboards running Microsoft 1.0XX including IBM production test diagnostic software and working 80286-8 processors and math co-processors.
LMAO...yea, sure did!

Actually, I forgot, I actually started on the IBM keypunch computers (HIUS 3162), anyone remember those? before the TRS 80...duh, how did I forget that?

Im one of those original founders ("Dellionairs") you might have heard of for what thats worth. I was an original founder of Dell Computer (then PC's Limited).

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Floppy disk! Remember them?

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Top left was EGA color graphics BIOS for gaming etc (Dell 1986). Middle is Intel 80287 Math coprocessor which was a complement to the regular 80286 processor (square one on the right). It was a several hundred dollar add on so you could do advanced mathematical functions. All this is on your cell phones now btw. ENJOY!

Yep Cul I remember the punchcards. You had to turn your card in to the computer center and hope they didnt get any of them out of order or you whole program would be screwed up. You had to keep all those cards in order or no way the program would run. Memories eh? I remember the computer center would post a sign what the turnaround time would be. Sometimes it would take them the next day before they could run your cards. sometimes the mainframe would "eat" your cards and you would get them back n a box all out of order and that meant a week of work sorting and making new card to get your program in order again so you could run it. Sure was satisfying when you ran something without a hitch tho.
 
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CP/M on a reverse-engineered ZX Spectrum clone! Audio tapes, of course. BASIC was king. Hooked up to a TV.
 
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Dang, some could afford 287s! And how I was drooling for an EGA card! Heck, going from Hercules MGA to supposedly CGA (that I later discovered was working in Tandy mode at 16 colors) was the day of my life (on an XT).

Ndoghouse and all, thanks for the trip down the nostalgia lane. Keep in mind this was much closer in time to me, because Eastern Europe was adopting smuggled over borders technology much slower. You could get in trouble with authorities over a Pink Floyd album.

Seeing we have celebs around here, I now get some of ya'll kukri collections....:D
 
Dang, some could afford 287s! And how I was drooling for an EGA card! Heck, going from Hercules MGA to supposedly CGA (that I later discovered was working in Tandy mode at 16 colors) was the day of my life (on an XT).

Ndoghouse and all, thanks for the trip down the nostalgia lane. Keep in mind this was much closer in time to me, because Eastern Europe was adopting smuggled over borders technology much slower. You could get in trouble with authorities over a Pink Floyd album.

Seeing we have celebs around here, I now get some of ya'll kukri collections....:D


For the most part you didnt have a 287 unless you were university funded or something. Funny cause this was way before internet but there were bulletin boards you could post to like forums and converse back and forth but it was very slow. It did work! My screen name has been the same since about 1982:D
I had Led Zeppelin Song remains the same on a Seagate 20 MB Hard drive at that time. You could listen to the whole song then type "park" to park the heads so you didnt drop the head on a good part of the disk. Then replay it. One song kinda got old tho. It took up the whole hard drive but sure was sure cool! I did try getting Dark Side of The Moon on it but it was just too much. When they came out with the CRC100 I got the whole
album on it:thumbup:
 
I usually wait for the first service pack before I upgrade to a new MS product, but I'm on Windows 8.1 so I don't see how 10 could be any worse!

I have a fairly large collection of old computer (including a Speccy and TI-99/4a) going back to 70's stuff like the PDP-11, but it's all been boxed up since the baby. I do still have an HP-35 calculator on my desk, though (modified to work with an old Blackberry battery), and I built an adapter to use an old IBM 5155 with my modern PC.
 
Kamidog - Floppies! man, i remember that like yesterday. Remember when one was your OS disk, and then the app disk...lol?

Punchcards....I hated them with a vengeance, somehow I always had a "glitch". I think the CC guys did it on purpose! I used to tell the boss, I could do my work faster manually, I didn't need the damn punchcards and CC.

I've been using my screenname since about 1980, I remember them forums, used to be on those a lot. Had to use a dial up modem, had the external and internal models, type in an address like Telex, and just type away. Wow...memories.

My computer degree is so old, we did everything in machine language...:(

"parking" the heads before shutting down, Lord, I haven't heard that term in ages! Still remember Wordstar and Lotus 123 without the WYSIWYG....geez, those were the days.
 
Waow I'm learning some pretty cool stuff about my fellow forumites...

What bugs me the most about the new technology trends and Win10 is just another example.
Is they are transforming product into services. Microsoft is even saying it up front.

"There is no such thing as a free lunch" - Win-toes 10 is putting the whole foot in the door. Mark my words, soon Microsoft will show up on our monthly bills.

-Water
-Electricity/Gas
-Phone/Mobile
-Internet
-Microsoft...
 
Ah, all you youngsters. I was programming using punch cards and assembler language on an IBM 1130 back in the late '60s and early '70s, then moved on to DEC PDP11s and Fortran in the later '70s. I was the local expert at creating the "program cards" for large data entry jobs on the IBM 029 keypunch machines (later replaced with 129s). I had learned to program for efficiency of execution, storage, and memory usage. I remember when the first IBM PCs came out and the University ordered one for me. I had specified a 10 MB hard drive, and they sent me one with a 20 MB hard drive, which I returned because I didn't think I'd ever be able to use that much storage. At the time, I was running a 20-user system on a DEC PDP11/34 with 512K of Standard Memories core memory and two RK05 removable disk drives which held 5 MB each - one held the entire operating system, and the other was used for application files. I didn't realize how bloated all of the PC stuff was until much later. And then we upgraded to an RP04 88 MB disk drive - back then they cost $43,000. And I was even on the internet (BITNET) back before Al Gore had even invented it - Good times...
 
Waow I'm learning some pretty cool stuff about my fellow forumites...

What bugs me the most about the new technology trends and Win10 is just another example.
Is they are transforming product into services. Microsoft is even saying it up front.

"There is no such thing as a free lunch" - Win-toes 10 is putting the whole foot in the door. Mark my words, soon Microsoft will show up on our monthly bills.

-Water
-Electricity/Gas
-Phone/Mobile
-Internet
-Microsoft...


Google is almost there now short of an operating system. I doubt Microsoft will stand a chance. We will see? I doubt the SEC will allow Google to buy Microsoft. That would pretty much do it.
 
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