Different slabs on 21 and resale value

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My large 21 is a 2015 model. Long story short, I sent it in to have a clip point blade installed to go along with my Insingo blade, so now they're 100% interchangeable.

When I got the knife back there was minor lock rock so I sent it back to CRK who kindly switched the lock bar slab out free of charge saying they couldn't prove I had damaged the lock bar. Well I hadn't because it didn't have lock rock when I sent it in originally.

After getting it back I noticed a different letter on each slab and some very very minor subtle differences in the way the slabs line up.

I'm not sure I'll ever sell it and It doesn't bother me much, but I'm wondering how it would affect resale if I decided to sell it as a package including both blades, washer sets, and silver and blue hardware.

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Affect value in what way specifically?

Negatively because of the mismatched scales or positively because of the extra hardware and extra blade?
My thought is that it would be worth more..Probably not quite what you would pay for a new blade + new Sebenza because, use.
I don't really think too many people are going to look at the slight mismatch, but if I were going to sell it, since I noticed it, certainly, I would disclose it.
Really depends on it's worth to you I suppose.
 
The slabs on my small 21 have different codes (C12 and A13) but I just assumed that happens from time to time.
 
blanco112 said:
The slabs on my small 21 have different codes (C12 and A13) but I just assumed that happens from time to time.
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It does..because all the parts are made in lots and stored. They pull off of the shelves for assembly when they are meeting deliveries of product to dealers etc.

Perfectly normal.
 
Looking at the photos above, it does looks as a mismatched pair. IMO it does look wierd unless it is intended to be so. Anyway, I am looking at my 21 Large which is having a B-14 and a C-14 stamp but looks equally balanced though.
 
You guys have some eagle eyes. I don't think even 1% of people would notice that mismatch.

It seems to me that plain Sebbies are either "new" with one almost universal price or "used" with another almost universal price. It takes a tremendous beating to drop it significantly below the standard "used" price. I don't see how that would impact the value in any significant way once you have used it.

Would that variation have to come in how the slabs are cut and ground? I don't see how they can really be misaligned in assembly.

I'd say just use and enjoy the thing. :) It's not a collectible piece, so just consider the depreciation the small price of enjoying a great knife. :)
 
To me, with the disclosure that all work was done at CRK , would not be a minus if I liked the configuration. I have a couple with extra blades, and it's fun to switch out. Almost like getting a new knife.
 
Parts bin effect. Lots of older knives have different date codes on the two scales. It shouldn't affect resale value at all.
 
Thanks for the replies. My original question was about affecting resale value negatively because of the mismatched scales but knowing that the extra blade and hardware could positively affect it is good news! I have no plans to sell it...and I am not bothered by the tiny differences in slabs...one slab is 2 years old and the other is brand new, so there's bound to be some slight variation as CRK practices constant quality improvement.


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I think it's annoying to see a defect like that on a knife that is known for being perfect in terms of tolerances. I wouldn't want it.
 
There is no defect, CRK fitted the knife and sent it out ready to go. Just because it's not literally perfect,doesn't mean it's not functionally perfect.
 
I had a Lg 21 micarta with matching slab dates but the birthday card was way off. Im guessing they mass produce the slabs and when they put the knife together is when they take the slabs from the pile, occasionally it may mismatch.
 
I dunno....I'm all for being reasonable, but those slabs were milled on a different program. The bevels don't match. That would bug me forever. I'd send it back. Maybe they didn't notice or realize. I'm sure they'll make it right.
 
kidcongo said:
I dunno....I'm all for being reasonable, but those slabs were milled on a different program. The bevels don't match. That would bug me forever. I'd send it back. Maybe they didn't notice or realize. I'm sure they'll make it right.
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I'd send it back too.
 
For reals? Maybe on an annual or exotic inlay or something, but for a plain jane? They're straight up users not shelf queens. I'd just use it and enjoy it. You won't see that with your fist wrapped around it anyways. ;)

Say you send it in and they replace the presentation side now. With the new blade, a new lockbar slab, and a new presentation slab, there's nothing left of the knife you bought to begin with. Lol. That's funny. You can do what you like but it seems like much ado about nothing to me. I don't know if owning 8 CRKs makes me any kind of expert compared to the others here though.
 
nbp said:
For reals? Maybe on an annual or exotic inlay or something, but for a plain jane? They're straight up users not shelf queens. I'd just use it and enjoy it. You won't see that with your fist wrapped around it anyways. ;)

Say you send it in and they replace the presentation side now. With the new blade, a new lockbar slab, and a new presentation slab, there's nothing left of the knife you bought to begin with. Lol. That's funny. You can do what you like but it seems like much ado about nothing to me. I don't know if owning 8 CRKs makes me any kind of expert compared to the others here though.
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I disagree. I use all my CRKs, much harder than many, but would never willingly pay $400+ for a knife with mismatched slabs. If cutting performance is the only criteria, we'd all be much better off in the Spyderco forum. We pay a premium for both performance and finishing with CRK. It is reasonable to expect part of the high cost of a Sebenza is for a nice looking knife that matches side-to-side. How you use it after that is ones own business, but a $400+ knife that is lop-sided is really not a worthwhile purchase in my mind. You can get that with a Cold Steel, with likely the same cutting performance.
 
On a brand new knife with all new parts, sure, but this one has had one slab replaced. I doubt they have 2015 lockbar slabs sitting around anymore, so when the knife was sent in to have the lockbar slab looked at/replaced, should they have sent a whole new knife back then? If the bevel grinds had changed slightly over the past year or so as suggested by some, they may not have a perfectly matching slab anywhere in the shop. One is 2015, one is 2016. I'm just trying to see it from CRKs point of view, that's all. They have done a lot already to try to make this knife right.
 
I guess I see your point NBP. Maybe there should have been some communication with the OP before the slab was swapped?
 
Possibly so. I guess they could have said, "we'll replace the part but there may be some small variation in the shape now, so don't be alarmed". Maybe they didn't notice? Maybe they did the best they could? If every slab they have available looks the same, sending it in may make no difference at all as there's nothing they can do. Of course, I don't know any of this for fact, just things I thought of as I mused over this. Questions worth asking before we blast CRK for sending out a "defective" knife.
 
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