Differential, Non-folded/layered Steels Knife? Do they exist?

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Are there any knives with differential steels to make the knife? The idea is similar to differential heat treatment to make the cutting edge of the blade hard, and the spine and other portions tougher. I know that there are examples of knives where steels are folded, where the harder steel is on the outside and the softer/tougher steel is sandwiched on the inside. Or, where various steels are folded and layered to make the blade.

But, what about harder steel on the cutting edge portion (e.g. M390 with HRC 62), which transitions to the spine/handle area to a tougher steel (e.g. steels used for axes; or a different hard steel made tougher with heat treatment, or even a titanium alloy)? It may not have much of an advantage over differentially heat treated, single steel blades; but I think it would look interesting if you have, say, a modern super steel like M390 which then transitions to Wootz (e.g. where brut de forge would typically be at).

Not sure how the bi-metal border area would fuse the two steels together, so maybe folding is necessary, but you would still have two different steels separated into distinct regions of the knife.

Do they exist? Difficult? Impossible? Thanks in advance.
 
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Kershaw/Kai/ZT does composite blades with a more advanced steel on the edge, that is not a laminate, Michael Walker does the Zipper blade which is a composite.

Barry Dawson has used 440C in the past for larger blades, drawing back the spine so it is softer than the edge.

I hope this answers your question......affordability wise, the Kershaw knives are most accessible.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Thanks, so they do exist!

I just looked up your example of the Kershaw composite blade, and I'm guessing then the example of M390 and wootz composite can be made. I take it that the steels will fuse together by connecting the two pieces... I'm sure there's more to it than that but they can be made with relative ease (?).
 
Thanks, so they do exist!

I just looked up your example of the Kershaw composite blade, and I'm guessing then the example of M390 and wootz composite can be made. I take it that the steels will fuse together by connecting the two pieces... I'm sure there's more to it than that but they can be made with relative ease (?).

No on the wootz....yes on damascus.....just because it would be difficult to obtain for a commercial venture.

It isn't easy at all....Kershaw is currently the only company offering materials in this iteration....they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars figuring out how to do it...in order for it to work right, the heat treating methods of BOTH materials in the composite have to work in accord, otherwise there is delamination and warpage.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
If IU understand you right, your essentially talking about an edge weld, though with more modern steels.
 
If IU understand you right, your essentially talking about an edge weld, though with more modern steels.

Sure, edge welding (a larger piece beyond the edge) would be a way to get it done. I'm just wondering how it would hold up when marrying M390 to wootz.
 
Hello!

I can only second STevens recommendations, ZT would probably be your best guess. Here are two of mine, the composite is more visible on the 0777 with the damascus section, but the 0888 also features a composite blade. There are quite a few other and more readily available pieces as well though.

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Best regards,
Alex
 
No on the wootz....yes on damascus.....just because it would be difficult to obtain for a commercial venture.

It isn't easy at all....Kershaw is currently the only company offering materials in this iteration....they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars figuring out how to do it...in order for it to work right, the heat treating methods of BOTH materials in the composite have to work in accord, otherwise there is delamination and warpage.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

I'm hoping there are custom examples.

It seems really difficult so a one-off custom job seems to be the right fit for a modern steel-wootz composite blade.
 
The concept of that custom knife is what I was looking for. It's a very interesting technique and sparked a lot of curiosity.

I think it would be neat to see a super steel combined with wootz made in this way.
 
I was referring to the concept. It's a very interesting technique and sparked a lot of curiosity.

I think it would be neat to see a super steel combined with wootz in this way.

I am not sure you can combine a super steel with Wootz, and I do think it is pointless, because by nature, the super steel will do just about anything Wootz can do better.

Wootz is a beyotch to maintain without surface rust developing. Have you ever owned and used a Wootz knife?

Maybe you could weld a dendritic D2 or 440C to another steel for a contrast in visual finishes....not sure.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Maintenance is a good point. Maybe I'll stick to a single stock of M390, or have two different steels for visual effect.
 
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