digital camera suggestions

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I need some help picking a new digital camera, and I have seen some amazing pics on this forum so I figured I'd see what yall had to say. I am currently debating between a nikon d60 or d80 and the canon rebel series, but I'm open to all suggestions, if you have first hand experience with the product. Here's what I'm looking for:

I would like to stay under a $1000
Incredible Pic and color quality
able to take pics quickly( dont want to wait 5-10 seconds for it to auto focus)
well built and sturdy
automatic shooting
able to adjust pic quality and touch up photos(ISO, red-eye, ect)
at least a 2 inch screen
basically just a really good all around camera able to take family pics, landscapes, kids football games, and extremely detailed knife pics.:D
Thanks for any suggestions.
 
My brother bought my dad a D60 along with the 55mm and 200mm lenses. I think he paid around 900 and I think its worth it.
 
Whatever you get check the reviews and try to find one that is 'battery kind'. Some of em like the Fuji I bought my wife eat batteries alive and kills em faster than any single device we've ever owned.

If the quality is important for printing and storage of the pics get you a good one with high pixel rating. I was surprised that April's (my wife's) didn't even come with a charger. We had to go get her one from Radioshack and it charges but its slow compared to the one that came with mine.

My brother in law has a really nice one by Minolta I think and it had whatever the highest pixel was at the time. It took some very high quality pics.

When I got mine the reviews from Amazon.com were a lot of help even though I didn't buy it from them. Later we did get my second one there but once again it was after reading the reviews that we bought mine.

STR
 
Unless you're making poster size prints, you neither need nor want super-high pixel count. If the sensor size isn't increased with the increased number of pixels, the signal to noise ratio of each pixel goes down causing more image noise.
 
FWIW, I just did the research and with a $1000 budget decided to go with the Sony Alpha 350 in a kit. 14.1 Megapixel rating tiltable viewscreen, etc. etc. etc. Sony "took over" the Minolta line and has really made some good improvements to the line. All of the reviews I read put it up at the top and some thought it better than the Nikon or Cannon stuff.

I ordered a two lens and lots of doodads kit from Pyxis Camera on the 'Bay. Just ordered it yesterday so I can't attest to how it works, just what I researched. A friend at work bought the Alpha 200 and loves it.

J-
 
My brother chose the Rebel over the D60 because the Rebel has a CMOS rather than the ccd of the D60.
 
A possible important consideration is shake reduction or image stabilization for longer lenses.

Neither Canon nor Nikon have the SR/IS built-in on the bodies - and although both the new Canon dRebel XSi and Nikon D60 are supplied with kit lenes with IS - these are in the range of ~28-83mm - so IS although useful, is not vital.

It's the longer lenses that become harder to hand hold - and buying lenses with IS in-lens is a lot more expensive than lenses without.

The alternative is IS built in to the bodies which works with any lens - that's Pentax and Sony (which took over Minolta).

Pentax K200D is 10Mp ~$660 incl shipping - it uses AA batteries which some regard as a big advantage - whereas others do not agree. It is also weather resistant - which is a huge benefit. The K200D's autofocussing may be a bit slower than either Canon or Nikon - but it is faster than the Pentax K100D older model which I use extensively - and I do not regard that as slow.

Sony A200 10Mp <$500 shipped incl kit lens. This price is a bargain.

Sony A300 10Mp $675 shipped - adds live view and tilting LCD screen.

Both the Sonys have slightly higher noise at ISO1600 and above - this may be important for low available light photography.

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I'm a Nikon fan, too, and I say the D80 with 18-135. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/449066-REG/Nikon_9405_D80_SLR_Digital_Camera.html

As far as the D60, I don't really think it's worth the extra money over the D40. There's not a lot of difference. You could go with the D40 and get some better glass with the savings. The D40 and the 18-200 VR would be a nice combo to get started with, also. :thumbup:


This was taken with the D40 and the 18-55mm kit lens.

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I have a D50, which I really love. The Nikon felt better in the hand over the Rebel.

All my pics are taken with it..

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I recommend the FujiFilm Z10, Comes in different colors. Great pictures, Marco mode is very nice. Lightweight, small, Easy to use. Advertising is not allowed in the discussion forums.
heres a pic i took earlier today with the camera.

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The big advantage of the Nikons are that they kept the same mounting system. If you had an older Nikon SLR you can use those lenses - particularly any older lenses that are autofocus. It also means you can find used lenses at good rates because any of the old 35 mm SLR autofocus lenses for Nikon work with the digital series. I went with the D50 which was later replaced by the D40. As I recall, the D40 has less compatibility with older lenses than the D50 and D80. I used to have an FE-3 35 mm SLR and 2 of my lenses work with the D50 no problem. My old 1.4f 50 mm manual lense fits on the D50, but the light meter doesn't work with it. Too bad, because I really liked having that fast lens when I needed it.

We have a D80 at work. It is definitely a more substantive body that can take more of a beating. It has more features, but the technical details are such that I never use them. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the D50.

I don't find a lack of image stabilization that much of a big deal. When I'm using my 300 mm I generally prefer using a tripod. However, I have successfully shot handheld with the 300 mm and had good results. Really it all depends on how much light you have available. The little rule I tend to go by is that if the shutter speed is at least twice the focal length then I can handhold without much problem. One of the big advantages of digital also is the ability to swtich the ISO setting on the fly. Just like film, going to a faster ISO setting will produce more grain in the shots. However, you can adjust to the lighting conditions by this method and still handhold.

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I've got an Olympus Stylus 720 SW that I really like. Takes great digital pictures and also movies with sound. Fits in my shirt pocket, is shock proof, and best of all waterproof.. I've had it for about 2 years now and no complaints.
 
The big advantage of the Nikons are that they kept the same mounting system.
It was something of an advantage in the late 1980s if you wanted to buy an autofocus body, but didn't want to replace all your manual focus lenses. Canon and Minolta's AF lenses from their 35mm film cameras all work on Canon and Sony digital SLRs, so that advantage has evaporated somewhat in the past 20 years.

The compatibility issue with the Nikon D40 (and D40x and I think D60) is they don't have an autofocus motor in the camera body. That means they can only autofocus with newer AF-S lenses.
 
If you're not dead set on an SLR, there's only one camera I would recommend to you.
Canon G9.
My wife wanted a small camera to take everywhere with her, and take on business trips. I got a little depressed at the thought, because all the little cameras are one compromise piled on top of another. We've had a few Olympus cameras that were great for a while, like the old 5050. That is, until they broke down; they don't make the new Olympus's like the old ones, that's for sure.
I should say that I'm a camera guy, and I still use film. It's not that I don't like digital, in fact I love the idea, just like I love film for some things; it's just that until recently I haven't found a digital SLR that I liked well enough to shell out the cash they were charging for them. Things have changed though, and Canon and Nikon both have some great cameras. Nevertheless, for that greatness, you're still going to pay well over 1k. Down the pike are some awesome critters from Sony, but that's down the pike.

So we went from store to store, and we'd narrowed the list down to a few models of the less craptastic variety. Finally, after seeing all the flaws of the cameras, compromise for compromise, after two weeks, she finally said "I've had enough, what do you want me to get?"

Easy answer. The G9 has full manual control, super customization, rugged build quality, excellent 12 MP count, short delay, low noise, RAW and most importantly of all, a great image processor, the Digic III. This is the only serious contender these days for great camera award when you don't need or want an SLR or another format. I'm sorry Leica, it's just true.

Photo Journalists use this camera when they don't have the space for an SLR or can't lug the gear up hills. This is also the camera that serious photographers carry as their backups to their major cameras, when two SLR's are just too heavy. Those guys were shooting with cameras that were great back in the day, like the Olympus 5050. They tossed them in the trash as soon as the G series came down the pike.

You sacrifice interchangeable lenses, and you accept a small parallax because there's no mirror to look through. For that, you get a camera that you can fit in your pocket, a camera that doesn't weigh much, and a camera that most likely will outlive all the other craptastic camera products on the market these days, short of those great SLR's that cost big bucks. Most importantly, it takes breathtaking pictures, and has a surprising amount of accessorization, like telephoto lenses and add-on grips. It's a serious camera, not a toy. It's got such a great, big, colorful LCD on the back, that you won't even use the good viewfinder, that is corrected and zooming, unlike most unibody cameras.

Read the reviews online, I doubt you'll find one person that says the camera is not the bee's knees. Like I said, if you don't need an SLR, or would love to find something lighter that doesn't demand that enormous bag slung on your shoulder, this is the camera. If you ever had an SLR back in the day, you know how annoying it was to lug around the bag, and all the weight. Probably half the time you just left the camera at home to save the trouble. Although it only has a 6X optical, it's a good one. To be sure, Nikon and Sony have excellent lenses on their upper end non-SLR cameras, but the rest of the features don't stack up.

The best part about all this is that you can get this camera for just a bit north of $400.
For the features and price, there is nothing, I mean nothing that holds a tiny candle to this thing.
 
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Thanks for all the great advice and suggestions, I really appreciate it. Yall have given me a lot to consider and research. Thanks again.
 
The big advantage of the Nikons are that they kept the same mounting system. If you had an older Nikon SLR you can use those lenses - particularly any older lenses that are autofocus. It also means you can find used lenses at good rates because any of the old 35 mm SLR autofocus lenses for Nikon work with the digital series. I went with the D50 which was later replaced by the D40. As I recall, the D40 has less compatibility with older lenses than the D50 and D80.

This is correct - the BIG advantage of Nikons is that they accept all previous Nikon lenses and there are a LOT out there -
there are obviously some limitations - eg: a Non-auto-focus lens obviously cannot possibly be expected to auto-focus......

However the exceptions are the latest lower priced Nikon dSLRs - D40 (as mentioned); D40X and the new D60 - will only auto-focus with the newer AF-S lenses - the previous Nikon AF lenses do NOT auto-focus on these dSLRs - this is a great pity as one of the big attraction of Nikon is their compatibility with legacy lenses.

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There's a lot of AF-S glass out there, though; standard kit lenses as well as the pro glass. I know my Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 will work on the D40, although it looks like something out of a cartoon. :D You can get around most of the issues now, anyway, and the third-party guys are making some that will also work. I've got a Sigma 10-20mm that works with the D40, and they make a 30mm 1.4 and soon a 50mm 1.4. Tamron and Tokina also make some, but I haven't personally tried them. The Nikon primes are where you'll be missing out, but Sigma's offerings aren't too shabby as a replacement.
 
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