Dimensions of case tiny trappers please - and any other small friends

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Howdy,
My company has a relatively new knife policy. In case one of us four-eyed, 4F engineers goes postal (apparently this has happened), we are only allowed to carry knives that fit the following dimensions:
blade length 2" or less.
overall length 4 1/2" or less.

Since most slippies are listed by closed length only, I've had difficulty in finding a slip joint that meets these limits, (yes, I know the Vic Classic does and I carry one, but I still want more options.) The single locking blade knives publish their specs, and I've got a couple that meet the requirements, but I'd like a slip joint or so to round out my options. (Drives me nuts not to carry a full size blade as I have for years, but I have too many years in with the company to quit and dare not let them fire me due to loss of retirement benefits that I hope soon to enjoy.)

The Case Tiny Trapper is listed as 2 1/" closed. What is the overall length when open and what is the max blade length?

Any other small ideas would also be welcomed. (sorry, can't afford customs.)

Thanks,
Frank R.
 
ooh, get a Peanut. Under three inches closed, but just a little bigger then a tiny trapper. Not sure of the specifics, but is is the ULTIMATE small knife in this poster's opinion. Small handle, but very boxy, which makes up for the short length and makes it aot more comfortable to hold and use then other like-sized knives. Cuts like the dickens, all out of proportion to it's size. Comfortable to carry in a pocket, and considered "cute" as opposed to threatening to the uninformed. Look around and see what you like, but you can't go wrong with a Peanut. You'll find that there's a member or two other then me on here that really likes this pattern.
 
Here are my three tiny knives...

my Mini Case Toothpick 2 1/4 inch blade


My Toothpick along with my Bee Laguiole 2 3/8 inch blade


And last my CRKT Ashworth Turtle 1 inch blade
 
I don't know if the Peanut will work. I don't have one, but at 2 7/8" closed, to make his max overall length, the blades have to be 1 5/8" or shorter. I would think that the main blade is a tad longer than that, isn't it? Like about 2" or a bit more? If the main blade is over 2", then it's too long, and even if it is only 2", that would take him out to 4 7/8" on the overall length, almost half an inch too long.

With the Tiny Trapper, he's looking at 2 3/8" closed, so even if the blades are a full 2" long (about as long as I can imagine they'd be in a handle that size, and as long as he's allowed), he's still under the max length allowed by his company's policy, cause he'd only be at 4 3/8". Some of those little Wharncliffe Tiny Trappers are (dare I say it?) Cute!

Uh, oh, I feel the man-card trying to slide out of my wallet...


http://www.caseknifeoutlet.com/knifedetail.cfm?id=2509

That would do it for me, if I worked or regularly went to a restricted area that limited my size choices. Wharncliffe instead of long Spey, nice red bone.
 
ElCuchillo said:
ooh, get a Peanut. Under three inches closed, but just a little bigger then a tiny trapper. Not sure of the specifics, but is is the ULTIMATE small knife in this poster's opinion. Small handle, but very boxy, which makes up for the short length and makes it aot more comfortable to hold and use then other like-sized knives. Cuts like the dickens, all out of proportion to it's size. Comfortable to carry in a pocket, and considered "cute" as opposed to threatening to the uninformed. Look around and see what you like, but you can't go wrong with a Peanut. You'll find that there's a member or two other then me on here that really likes this pattern.
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Yeah, what he said!:thumbup:

I can't imagine even a screaming meemie member of the far left having anything against a nice little peanut. If church ladies think they are cute, your human resourses people will go along, I'm sure.
 
jackknife said:
Yeah, what he said!:thumbup:

I can't imagine even a screaming meemie member of the far left having anything against a nice little peanut. If church ladies think they are cute, your human resourses people will go along, I'm sure.
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Ach, I work for an engineering company and SIZE does matter. Cuteness will not make up for being over the size limit. Our HR people have no concept of "Cute", they just have rulers. (Shucks the church ladies at my church just shrug at my regular knives. 4" blade? No problem.)

sixgunner455 said:
I don't know if the Peanut will work. I don't have one, but at 2 7/8" closed, to make his max overall length, the blades have to be 1 5/8" or shorter. I would think that the main blade is a tad longer than that, isn't it? Like about 2" or a bit more? If the main blade is over 2", then it's too long, and even if it is only 2", that would take him out to 4 7/8" on the overall length, almost half an inch too long.

With the Tiny Trapper, he's looking at 2 3/8" closed, so even if the blades are a full 2" long (about as long as I can imagine they'd be in a handle that size, and as long as he's allowed), he's still under the max length allowed by his company's policy, cause he'd only be at 4 3/8". Some of those little Wharncliffe Tiny Trappers are (dare I say it?) Cute!

Uh, oh, I feel the man-card trying to slide out of my wallet...


http://www.caseknifeoutlet.com/knifedetail.cfm?id=2509

That would do it for me, if I worked or regularly went to a restricted area that limited my size choices. Wharncliffe instead of long Spey, nice red bone.
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sixgunner you have nailed my problem exactly and that is exactly the knife I've been eyeing, a Wharncliffe Tiny Trapper. I was just kind of hoping someone here would have one so that I could confirm the size before I buy.

Still hoping for the dimensions.
 
Very interesting!
I have single blade knives, not slippies that are under 2", Benchmite and Ladybug.

But, I just measured my Queen 3 1/4 " stockman, and the main clip blade is 2 1/4".

Buying a smaller knife with a designed smaller blade makes for a lighter knife.

Personally, I would get a nice medium stockman, and grind down the main clip on a extra course stone/diamond to a rounder tip so it is 2".

This way you can have a strong main blade that would hold to heavier work.
 
That's definitely another option, neeman, and an idea I thought of recommending, but not everybody has the tools or experience to feel comfortable cutting down a brand new knife like that, so I kind of left it out.
 
Hows about the small stockman Schrade "USA" of course Old Timer model 108OT 2 13/16 OAL main blade, clip 2 inchs on the nose AND carbon steel!!!! no mods needed and great quality at reasonable price ON the E-bay or??? Also Uncle Henry model 807 although I don't have one to measure I would bet my left b>>> on it being the same frame!!! Case tiny Muskrat 2 3/4 OAL blades 1 7/8.
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You always see thes little guys up in Ebay. There's one now in there somewhere. Usually under brandless or no name or other.2 inches long and the big blade is 1 1/2 inches.
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Cases tiny hunter measures 2 7/8 long closed andthe main blade is 2 1/4.

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Thanks, all. Time to do some head scratching and looking (probably some drooling as well)

Sixgunner you nailed me again. I think I'd be a bit shy about major blade mods. But I'm going to look into it for a long term solution. I do like the thought of a bit more robust blade. It also has the advangage of providing a longer handle. That's something that bugs me about my Ladybug, not enough to hang onto and I find I can't control the blade properly. Thanks Neeman.

6.0stroker, I'm going to have to go have a look at those. Thanks.

And thanks Navihawk, I'll have a look at ebay mystery knives as well.

Frank R
 
I don't have the exact measurements handy, but the Case tiny trapper is definitely small enough to meet the restrictions; blade length is well under 2". And, it's available in Devin Thomas raindrop damascus.
 
knarfeng said:
I think I'd be a bit shy about major blade mods. But I'm going to look into it for a long term solution. I do like the thought of a bit more robust blade. It also has the advangage of providing a longer handle.

Frank R
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I don't see it as a 'major' mod.
Do you sharpen by hand?
Do you have an extra course stone?
You could just spend time on the blade on the extra course stone.
As long as you were not in a hurry, and you could just watch TV and work the blade down.
 
dsvirsky said:
I don't have the exact measurements handy, but the Case tiny trapper is definitely small enough to meet the restrictions; blade length is well under 2". And, it's available in Devin Thomas raindrop damascus.
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Thanks. Just what I needed to know. Target acquired.

And thaks also to Neeman. That will be a "long term" solution. Gonna take a while. I have a coarse silicon carbide stone.
 
Ridiculous to be not be able to carry such a small knife to work.
 
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I cannot answer in regard to the Mini Trapper.

I can about the Peanut as I can about some of these Company Rules.

I and mine suggest measuring the blade from the pivot hole.
This covers one, and gives a cushion in the event some meddlin' busybody chooses to call one on the knife and dimensions.

Peanut is 2 7/8" closed.

Main blade, from pivot hole to tip is : 2 5/16"
(by my quick bifocal measuring and going for max distance as someone might do)

Main blade measured from butting up ruler to bolter to tip : 2"
(again going max as the "0" is not on the edge of my ruler).

So, some folks are using SAK Classic SDs, these are politically correct.

Case Small Stockman and Pen knife that are 2 5/8" closed work real well.
Nice knife, looks good and non-threatening - "grandpa had a knife like that".

Buck Lancer is another example of a 2 5/8" closed , the main blades measured from pivot hole to tip, is under the restrictive length.

This restrictive stuff is all wrong, so we continue to fight it, just in the meantime folks need a knife to use.


Oh, get some SAK Escorts, these are like the Classic SDs, except do not have scissors, and run about $5.

*evil grin*

When that co-worker that is against knives, but always asks to borrow yours, let them borrow that Escort.

When gift giving time comes around and the policy is a gift about $5, limit, give these folks a Escort.

They have a <gasp> knife!
Each one - teach one and I see no reason why "we" cannot plant seeds, and brainwash and indoctrinate "back at 'em" as we fight for knife rights.
 
Here's a size comparison pic of a few of mine that are close in size to give you some other ideas if you decide to try some blade mods. The gray lines are 1/2 inch and the black ones are 1 inch. Sorry no Case; mine are all way to big to be easily modified.


From left to right: RR Sleeveboard Whittle, RR Small Coke bottle, RR Mini Copperhead, Old Timer 1040T, Old Timer 330T, RR Dogleg Whittler, Queen Serpentine Jack, RR Barlow

If I were in your situation, I would pick up a Case Pocket Hunter (red bone w/ CV blade) and send a Delica to Tom Krein or STR and have the blade ground down to roughly CoPilot size like this:


(Edited to add) I just went back and re-read and caught that the 4.5 inch is overall, not closed (as my brain had perceived it for some reason). That is a tough one to survive then. Wipes out the Delica idea. I would be quite bummed about that rule.
 
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thawk said:
Ridiculous to be not be able to carry such a small knife to work.
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A number of us at work are peeved, but do not protest too loud. The 2" limit is for our division. The overall corporate mandate is "no knives of any kind unless specifically allowed by a division." So we count our blessings, "little" tho they be.

Revolvergeek, thanks for the mod base ideas.

Frank R
 
Hmm. That's a neat mod on the Spydie. Pretty easy to do, too -- if you've got the tools and guts. :D Be glad to do it for you, if you end up wanting one done.
 
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