Discussion on Steel

[Mourinho]

delta3v和zwear钢哪个更好

 

[knarfeng]

delta3v和zwear钢哪个更好

I believe that translates to:

Which one is better, delta 3V or zwear steel?

 

[Mourinho]

我相信这可以翻译为：

yes！

 

[jmj3esq]

I think so.

 

[KenHash]

delta3v和zwear钢哪个更好

So you want to know which is better, Delta 3V (a specially heat treated CPM 3V) or Zwear.
3V and Zwear as well as Cruwear are all pretty close. Perhaps if you wrote in English you might
get some answers.
因此您想知道 Delta 3V（經過特殊熱處理的 CPM 3V）或 Zwear 哪個更好。
3V、Zwear 以及 Cruwear 都非常接近。也許如果你用英文寫作你可能會
得到一些答案。

 

[Mourinho]

因此您想知道 Delta 3V（经过特殊热处理的 CPM 3V）或 Zwear 哪个更好。
3V、Zwear 以及 Cruwear 都非常接近。也许如果你用英语写作你可能会
得到一些答案。
因此您想知道Delta 3V（经过特殊热处理的CPM 3V）或Zwear哪个更好。
3V、Zwear 以及 Cruwear 都非常接近。也许如果你用英文写作你可能会
得到一些答案。

谢谢您的回答

 

[KenHash]

谢谢您的回答

不谢

 

[Shorttime]

Depends on the application, and heat-treat protocol, I guess. If they're close enough in chemistry, then proper heat treat cycles should mean the end-user doesn't notice a difference.

This is another one of those threads that get cycled around regularly, and while I do love blathering on about my opinions, the answers are usually the same.

We get caught up in discussions about "best" steel, when heat treat and edge geometry for intended purpose are what sort out practical performance.

What's "better" or "best"? The one that gives you the performance you want, for a price you're willing to pay.

 

[Delgadonine]

Good thing I studied Latin in college. I can translate! Er, no I can't. That's Greek.

Veni! Vidi! Vici!

Er, no I didn't.

I vote for Legion 3V.

 

[Synov]

3V is tougher, Z-Wear/CruWear has more edge retention and is typically run harder. Neither is "better," it just depends on what you want to do. If you are asking about delta 3V then you are talking about a Carothers fixed blade. I would generally prefer 3V for a fixed blade.

 

[greater]

For me anything that cuts is good to go. I think the 440s and most likely a lot of other inexpensive steels work just fine provided they have the right heat treat and yes I know geometry and all that stuff. I think the inexpensive steels get a bad rap because companies don't bother to spend a little extra to bring out the best properties of these steels. They don't care and the people who buy them assume their supposed to perform like crap.

This is not to say the new stuff is not better, it generally is provided it's used for the purposes the steel was made for.

Apart from cheapskate heat treats and manufacturing processes I think hype marketing driving makers to use the steel in designs not appropriate for them will do lot to discredit the outstanding properties of these newer steels when used properly.

Having a knife blade made of the latest expensive fad steel not appropriate for it's design and intended use and marketed as better is called scamming and paying a high price for it is called getting ripped off.

You can't blame this all on the people that sell them. One company openly admits they make one (some ?) of their field knives in super steel because crazy clueless customers and customers who want to use the knife for other than it's intended purpose are demanding it. So they oblige with the recommendation that their more inexpensive model with standard steel is a better choice.

Enough nuts still insist and buy the super steel version regardless and try to convince everyone else it's the better choice..