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Well I was reading the new blade magazine and it seems that Taylor, since they now own the rights to Schrades patents, designs, trademark name (of Schrade) and the Schrade-Walden name are planning on making knives with the Schrade and Scrade-Walden names in Taiwan, China and Japan.

ughhhhhhh....disappointed. Im not sure how anyone else feels, but personally that really sickens me. Taking an american household cutlery name like Schrade and making knives with the trademark overseas.

I knew in the past they made the century knives in Germany, the imperial ones that were made in Ireland, and then a few new ones before they went under were made in China, but this is sad :(
 
Yep. The first time I see an OldTimer with a "China" tang stamp, I'm going to throw up.

The quality of American Schrade knives wasn't the best, but many of their knives were good values, especially the OldTimer knives. Other models, the Cliphanger and SimpleSimon weren't much better than Chinese knives anyway.

You should grab a couple of the closeouts over at SMKW. If you want some of the US-made Schrades without being scalped on eBay, it's a now-or-never sort of thing.

Best Wishes,
Bob
 
They will be as much real Schrades as the crap Jim Parker once pawned off as 'Marbles'.

But we're lucky, millions of real Schrades still out there for us to admire, learn about, buy, sell, trade, collect and cherish.

Phil
 
It all goes the way of Ingraham, Elgin, and other fine clock makers, the Singer name, Bell & Howell, Emerson, etc etc etc.

Davis
 
Bob, your right, Ive already looked into the left overs that SMKW has.

True, schrade never made the best knives, but at least they were decent, had a great history, and were made here :(
 
I asked at one of the local knife shops the other day if a particular USA-made brand sold well...the owner, who appreciates fine cutlery, sheepishly addmitted he would have to close the doors if he depended strickly on sales profits from USA-made knives. My opinion is a double edged sword...I simply will not buy, use, recommend or abide any knive made overseas. [I want to ask all those CRKT fans what they do w/those knives they buy from Taiwan in a year or two after the knife has fallen apart...all the CRKTs I ever owned wore out quickly], and the second part of that double edged sword is if US manufactures can keep the lights on w/imports and KEEP MAKING QUALITY KNIVES for us "in-the-know" crowd...then we might could learn to live w/a distasteful 21 Century economic reality. I compare a China-made BUCK 2004 Whitetail Collectable against their Alpha ATS-34 and wonder how the same name can be used on both? If it keeps the lights on....I'll buy a Buck Tempest or another Alpha....
 
The latest economic forecasts I have seen show a continuence of the last year's trend of declining value of the dollar against foriegn currencies such as the pound, yen, euro, etc., and increasing parity with the Canadian dollar. This should make imports more expensive, but think about it... that also means more expensive materials for the U.S. knifemakers. I know that my suppliers went up on the prices of steel and plastics this year so far by 15%. I have to either eat that increase like I did a similar increase late last year or, more likely, pass it on to my customers.

Even Warren Buffet is not real enthusiastic about the outlook and is finding it harder and harder to place his bets. He says a contributing factor is the billions a month of currency we are printing and sending overseas. Now, he is a pretty consistant winner at the table, so you would think his info would be sound. But most winners are reluctant to reveal their hand, and would just as soon raise on a bluff so take it for what is worth, or rather what you paid Warren for it! :D
 
You only got hit 15% worth on steel, Codger? Heck, we got hit about 30%! Of course, the average day may consist of building and installing 1000# worth of ornamental iron, but that 30% stings.
 
Nope, we had a summer increase, fall increase, and the final winter increase. We warned our customers who planned on spring installation to make an early buy of materials last fall. Our supplier would have warehoused them no charge. Now, the price increase more than offsets whatever interest the customer made on that money in the meantime. Unless they know a way to get 15% interest or greater on a short term investment. And since I expect to get more money for both myself and to pay for $1.90 gas......bump! I've kept my prices down for the last two years and eaten the increased overhead costs. I won't go to illegal immigrant labor to keep the price down. And I won't use cheaper materials, or use shortcuts to trim labor costs. Maybe folks won't want my "Old Timer" swimming pools. But I'll either make enough to make a profit and cover my warranty costs, or I'll go back to being a Process Engineer. Gulp!

Codger :rolleyes:
 
Did anyone actually expect a decent knife company to snatch up the remnants of Schrade? They tried to stay in business through every trick in the book (making knives in Ireland, China, and to WalMart specs :barf: ) All that was left in the end was a bunch of 420 stainless stock, and 30 year old tooling.

Taylor was the least of several evils that could have picked up the Schrade carcass. Consider it good luck that United, Frost or Linton didn't get a hold of the scraps.
 
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