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I think the title about sums it up. My personal thought is that I'll have more down below to pry than to poke.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
Anyone else have any thoughts?
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Dive Knives - Pointy or Flat Tipped?
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Brian,
I am not a diver, but I have made dive knives for a few customers. One knife that I made had the ability to both poke and pry. This knife was designed by a U.S. NAVY E.O.D. technician. The blade had to cut as well as pry under very harsh conditions. The blade also had withstand VERY Hard use and keep on performing. The customer wanted a knife that was "bomb-proof"
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My personal preference is for a knife that CUTS. If you have to pry something down there that is too much for your blade, you are probably (IMO) in the wrong situation with the wrong tool.
Barry
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I am not a diver, but I have made dive knives for a few customers. One knife that I made had the ability to both poke and pry. This knife was designed by a U.S. NAVY E.O.D. technician. The blade had to cut as well as pry under very harsh conditions. The blade also had withstand VERY Hard use and keep on performing. The customer wanted a knife that was "bomb-proof"
My personal preference is for a knife that CUTS. If you have to pry something down there that is too much for your blade, you are probably (IMO) in the wrong situation with the wrong tool.
Barry
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Well I am a Dive master and master SCUBA diver with over 1,500 dives.
A dive knife has several uses underwater, stabbing sharks is not one of them
Depeding on what type of diving you are doing you may find the flat tip more useful. Probably the best design I have ever seen in a daive knife is the U2 design by Kit Carson. The Buck version Intrepid is pictured below.
The flat tip is used for light prying and it works great on Abalone shells too. The number one reason for having a dive knife is to cut yourself out of monofiliment line, which is a divers #1 under water hazard. The U2 sharpened false upper edge is perfect for this in that it will hold the line in it's recessed area.
I am testing a U2 now made from Talonite, thanks to Rob Simonich, Kit Carson and Walt Welch. The results will be in a upcoming "To The Point" issue.
A regular style blade will do fine but if you ever use it to pry (which you will), you will end up with a flat tip anyway
Remember when you are underwater you are limited to only what you brought with you. You can't run back to the garage for more knives or a pry bar and you do not want to surface either as that counts as another dive. My advice is get a flat tip.
What I would like to see it a underwater multi-tool made out of Talonite!
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A dive knife has several uses underwater, stabbing sharks is not one of them
Depeding on what type of diving you are doing you may find the flat tip more useful. Probably the best design I have ever seen in a daive knife is the U2 design by Kit Carson. The Buck version Intrepid is pictured below.
The flat tip is used for light prying and it works great on Abalone shells too. The number one reason for having a dive knife is to cut yourself out of monofiliment line, which is a divers #1 under water hazard. The U2 sharpened false upper edge is perfect for this in that it will hold the line in it's recessed area.
I am testing a U2 now made from Talonite, thanks to Rob Simonich, Kit Carson and Walt Welch. The results will be in a upcoming "To The Point" issue.
A regular style blade will do fine but if you ever use it to pry (which you will), you will end up with a flat tip anyway
Remember when you are underwater you are limited to only what you brought with you. You can't run back to the garage for more knives or a pry bar and you do not want to surface either as that counts as another dive. My advice is get a flat tip.
What I would like to see it a underwater multi-tool made out of Talonite!
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well I had seen one that was a sharpened prybar, if I see it again at the pawn shop, I will pick it up
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Should have mentioned that I already own a flat-tipped knife (Made by Tusa I think? It's in FL waiting for me to get it wet this weekend...), and that it does, indeed cut.
Mike - Wow! That's a lot of time underwater! I've only got about 15 dives, just got my night dive left for Advanced Openwater PADI. Blew it off again this year in favor of a shark dive...
Mike - Wow! That's a lot of time underwater! I've only got about 15 dives, just got my night dive left for Advanced Openwater PADI. Blew it off again this year in favor of a shark dive...
I'm a PADI DiveMaster, and agree with Mike Turber. I personally carry a Gerber River Guide and a pair of EMT shears. The River Guide is small, with a serrated edge. The EMT shears get most of the use. The only things I've ever needed to cut are monofiliment, lost crab traps, and nylon line. I've never cut anything that required a straight edge. I also buy cheap because no matter how well I take care of it, eventually they rust out.
Happy Diving
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E. Larson
Edmonds, WA
Happy Diving
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E. Larson
Edmonds, WA
If I am only carrying one knife(yeah right
) then I would go with the flat tip.
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Go Flat. Been scuba certified since 1962.
Began using a knife underwater to pry abalones off Catalina Island. Mike's got it right. If you start with a point, you'll end up without.
Happy Bubbles! Chris Smith
Began using a knife underwater to pry abalones off Catalina Island. Mike's got it right. If you start with a point, you'll end up without.
Happy Bubbles! Chris Smith
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Hey Guys!
I forgot to mention that the dive knife I made for the E.O.D. Tech had a flat (sort of)
tip with a point too. It is hard to explain without a picture. I will try to get a pic up.
Barry
Jones Knives
I forgot to mention that the dive knife I made for the E.O.D. Tech had a flat (sort of)
tip with a point too. It is hard to explain without a picture. I will try to get a pic up.
Barry
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Hey Guys! I got the dive knife scanned. I hope this works.
Let me know what you think.
Barry
Jones Knives
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Let me know what you think.
Barry
Jones Knives
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Thanks Compact!
You can tell by the photo that the knife has seen its fair share of ABUSE. It was tested for 9 months in Guam. 6 weeks in Viet Nam. The knife was used under some very harsh conditions (prying open ammo crates, prying rocks out of the ground, and plenty of underwater use). The blade is dang near indestructible, but a little on the heavy side.
Barry
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You can tell by the photo that the knife has seen its fair share of ABUSE. It was tested for 9 months in Guam. 6 weeks in Viet Nam. The knife was used under some very harsh conditions (prying open ammo crates, prying rocks out of the ground, and plenty of underwater use). The blade is dang near indestructible, but a little on the heavy side.
Barry
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Very nice knife.
I agree with the flat tip for prying,
currently I carry a Tusa dive knife with
a flat tip. Before that I carried an old
style with the big black sheath ect. That
one had a point. I like the flat tip
better.
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I agree with the flat tip for prying,
currently I carry a Tusa dive knife with
a flat tip. Before that I carried an old
style with the big black sheath ect. That
one had a point. I like the flat tip
better.
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