DMT as a do-it-all system for all my knives, including carbon Japanese gyuto?

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I've been into folders and fixed blades for a while, but I have my first decent kitchen knife on the way (a Tojiro Shirogami gyuto from CKTG - very much an entry-level knife but a big step up for me.):)

I'd like to get proficient at free hand sharpening, since my 1x30, Norton India, and Sharp Maker probably aren't ideal for the Tojiro.

I thought I'd get some DMT stones for the gyuto, and I could also use the DMT for my re-profiling knives before putting them on the SM. (you'd think Spyderco, as proud as it is of the SM, would have their factory edges at 40 degrees inclusive to match the SM, but they never do. But I digress.). A course DMT plate would also come in handy for hatchets and axes, etc.

However, I notice on some of the dedicated kitchen knives fora that there's not much love for the DMT Duo-sharp/dia-sharp plates for Japanese knives. Then again, many of them are far more OCD about their edges than I plan to be. (I don't need 'slice a grape horizontally without it moving' sharp. I do want 'impress your non-knife aficionado friends' sharp.:D)

If you guys tell me to bight the bullet and get waterstones, I will. On my budget, that probably means the King 1000/6000, plus something coarser that you guys recommend.

I'm inclined to go with the DMT because of the faster cutting and no need for flattening. I'd also be up for finishing with diamond-charged stropping if that's the way to go. I currently strop with green rouge but would like to try the others.

What do you guys think? I am all ears and appreciate any advice.
 
There's merits to both.

I like the DMT extra coarse for repair, reprofliing and burr formation.

I then move to waterstones to remove scratches and refine the bevel and apex.

I'd recommend the the Suehiro stones, you can use your Google fu to find them at the same price as some of king stones.

I have a Suehiro 3k and it's a better cutting stone then my king 1k and 6k.
Personally
Im disappointed with high grit diamond stones.

They don't perform as good a waterstones.

The same can be said of low grit waterstones.

They don't perform as well as
Low grit diamond.
 
Diamonds would not be a good choice for that knife. I have one myself (240mm) and tend to finish it anywhere in the 800-2000 grit range. For a sharper and slightly more polished edge the Naniwa 2k Aotoshi is awesome on this steel and a finishing stone I would highly recommend. On the coarser side a 1000 King stone is tough to top, really puts a lasting edge on this blade.

Personally, the king 800 and Naniwa would make for a great two stone combo, add a $20 leveling stone and your good to go.

Pocket knives require a bit different care, the waterstones would work for most knives but with any high wear steels you will still want diamonds, the Coarse DMT is a favorite of mine and can be followed with a strop to create an excellent EDC edge. In case you were wondering, No, the coarse DMT cannot be used for lapping.
 
The King 800 and 4k make a nice pair for a lot of kitchen knives and some EDU.

The diamonds are invaluable, and a coarse and even extra coarse can be used to establish bevels on pretty much any steel, follow with waterstones or DMT.

I have used the DMTs on steels I wouldn't normally (high RC carbon steel) and found that a pinch of baking soda and a few drops of water tame them a bit and increase feedback as well. I still wouldn't reach for them as a first choice except on high wear steel.
 
Personally, the king 800 and Naniwa would make for a great two stone combo, add a $20 leveling stone and your good to go.

Thanks for turning me on to the 'green brick of joy'! I read a little more about it after you recommended it. Sounds great. I've just purchased it and a King 800 (price was right on the King, so I'm glad to hear it's decent.)

Where do I find a $20 leveling stone. The ones I find are more than that, so maybe I'm not looking at the right things.

Thanks again.
 
Look for Naniwa leveling stone, usually $20-$25 on Amazon.
 
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