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Grob

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A freind of mine was telling me that down in the states you can go hunting at, I guess farms, where you pay and they release whatever it is you are hunting from a cage. This guy was telling me that they do it with pheasants and quail right out of a cage, and that some places have a huge enclosure with deer in it that are conditioned to come eat at feeding stations. I didnt really beleive this guy, what would be the point? It would just be killing for fun, seems sickening doesnt it. What I want to know is was this guy pulling my leg? He also claimed Chenneys shooting thing had happened at one of these places.

Gord
 
For the novice or lazy hunter it provides a more or less guarranteed kill and he can choose the weather. I wouldn't be surprised at all. :(

I'll admit I'm not a fan of hunting in general, but that's mostly because I have a soft spot for fuzzy critters of all types. To each their own - I'm not opposed to hunting, it's just not for me.

I might hunt lizards if there were any big enough, though.
 
There isa variety of these outfits . They are called anything from high fence hunts to controlled genetics . It can be as tame as you have heard to stalking a buffalo for three days to kill it(if you are lucky) with a 55 pound longbow . I have seen hunts in a 2 acre enclosure where a guy was passing off half boar half hogs as wild boar and they ate garbage as well as restaurant leavings and places where you hunt true russian wild boar where you may or may not get a boar . It is the same as anything else and boils down to ethics . There are good game farms where you can have a challenging hunt and have men hunting truly wild deer who poach, use snares, drugs and lights at night .
 
Canned hunts/canned safaris are term I know of them under.

As mentioned, there are good and bad. Well, "good".

Even the illegal ones, that for the right price, will arrange for lion, tiger etc(sourced from old circus animals, private collections, smuggled into the country, stolen, etc). Often on the illegal canned safaris will even drug the animal to make it easier for the "hunter", as with the very high costs of the illegal safaris, the client gets pissed if they aren't guaranteed a kill.

Not my cup of tea at all(never been hunting,b ut that of course isn't my problem). Of course, are also reputable places, esp. in areas like texas, that have all kinds of plains animals, native to NA< and others imported legally fromother countries, and it's a real hunt. Out on hundreds/thousands of acres, they roam free, and you have to actually track them down and hunt them for real, with no promised results. Those I don't mind.
 
Grob said:
A freind of mine was telling me that down in the states you can go hunting at, I guess farms, where you pay and they release whatever it is you are hunting from a cage... He also claimed Chenneys shooting thing had happened at one of these places.

Gord
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Yup...totally true.

It's all part of a new line of thinking...keeping politicians and their friends safely enclosed in reserves where they can't screw up our country any more than they already have.
 
Many of these hunting ranches or preserves raise the critters that are hunted. It's rather like going to a farm and shooting your own cow, raised for the purpose of eating. Mant states in the USA offer this kind of hunting for those that are limited on time or have other handicaps.

When I used to hunt, I always took my game in the wild.

To each his own as long as it's not wasted.
 
Yeah...more killing than hunting.

I wouldn't do it for fun, but as long as the animal doesn't go to waste and isn't endangered, I'm not going to protest it.

John
 
There was one of these places near where I now live - now a park.

Reportedly, the ducks and geese were released from cages into sloped tubes that deposted them in the water right in front of the "sportsmen."

Splash. Cwack. BANG!

Weren't game "drives" all the rage in the Raj?
 
It's all part of a new line of thinking...keeping politicians and their friends safely enclosed in reserves where they can't screw up our country any more than they already have>>>>>>>>>> Nasty


That's right. When Disney World couldn't hold them any longer, we had to think of something.

>>>>>

Actually, at least some of the exotic hunting in Texas is done on private land and the creatures do roam at will there. They are not pets.

It wouldn't disturb me even if the animals were tame. What's the moral objection? You don't give fair chase to a Big Mac.

munk
 
There's one in Texas the "Y" ranch that I don't mind,of course this thing is like 5000 acers! :eek: and they have stuff from Africa so no biggy.

Smaller then that? no thank you that's bulls*** :grumpy: :thumbdn:
 
When I was living in Texas, a guy in my wife's unit went hunting on private land. He had to pay, and this and of itself seemed pretty strange to me as he couldn't find a place to hunt that he didn't have to pay on.

He went out one day and came back without a deer, and went back the next week and the guy asked him how last week went and when he told him he didn't get anything the guy was like, you should have told me because we guarantee you get something. That day he shot at birds the guy pulled out of a cage and threw in the air. I figured this was just a Texas thing until I saw this embarassment to the state of Pennsylvania. I'm not anti-hunting, but this isn't hunting...

http://inhonor.net/videos/uped/fl_video.php?f_num=98500

I confused the Y ranch with the Serengeti ranch and thought somebody might know the guy from the "Borat hunting" video.
 
I believe that if you are going to go hunt down and kill somthing you need to give it a sporting chance to live (aside: this is why I also like bull riding as a sport, the bull has a chance to win too). Hunting is not about taking every advantage a frontal lobe and a pair of oposable thumbs afourds us. If it was we would all be leaving drugged bait lieing around with infared video cameras watching to tell us when to go pull the trigger. If we really wanted to exploit our big juicy brains we would be going down to a farm and shooting somthing in a cage. I'm not againsed killing animals for food, but it's just a dream to think that becuase somthing is in a bigger cage its any different. If you want meat that came from a farm go to the butcher and buy some, I'm sure they're more humane about it. I bow hunt deer and hunt quail with a .22 not a shotgun, not because its more fun (it is) but for the same reason you dont shoot a drunk guy who takes a swing at you in a bar.

Gord
 
Everyone hunts for different reasons. You have yours, but it would be a mistake to believe your motivation was the only potentially correct one.

Personally, I enjoy hunting, but my main motivation is deer meat, which is healthier than just about any other red meat available. Sport, yay, but if I used a Dodge truck, for instance, and didn't exceed the limit, who cares? What right does someone else have to be offended?

I think it's a waterfowl hunter's prerogative to hunt duck, and the same for dove hunters, but I don't do it because my main mission is coming home with meat, with the least possible financial outlay. 5 oz of dove meat for at least 3 or 4 shotgun shells is not a good return for me; I'd prefer to use a slug or rifle cartridge to come back with 70 lbs of deer meat. It's more cost efficient.

At the same time, as long as sport hunters make use of what they kill, and fit into ecologically sound management programs, who am I to decry their sporting? Personally, I've often had to fight the tendency, growing up, to look down on the effete who had enough time and money to be sporting.

Just something to consider.

John
 
Spectre said:
Everyone hunts for different reasons. You have yours, but it would be a mistake to believe your motivation was the only potentially correct one.

Personally, I enjoy hunting, but my main motivation is deer meat, which is healthier than just about any other red meat available. Sport, yay, but if I used a Dodge truck, for instance, and didn't exceed the limit, who cares? What right does someone else have to be offended?

I think it's a waterfowl hunter's prerogative to hunt duck, and the same for dove hunters, but I don't do it because my main mission is coming home with meat, with the least possible financial outlay. 5 oz of dove meat for at least 3 or 4 shotgun shells is not a good return for me; I'd prefer to use a slug or rifle cartridge to come back with 70 lbs of deer meat. It's more cost efficient.

At the same time, as long as sport hunters make use of what they kill, and fit into ecologically sound management programs, who am I to decry their sporting? Personally, I've often had to fight the tendency, growing up, to look down on the effete who had enough time and money to be sporting.

Just something to consider.

John
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The year I spent in Seattle, they had two-lane, fenced "freeways." Deer would get in and hop around until hit. The local LEO's didn't care who picked them up if you did it promptly. I ate lots of venison that summer to supplement wages as a carpenter.

As for the rest, it's a cultural thing. It doesn't seem "sporting" to shoot ducks in a barrel, and few are doin' it for food. (At the late, local club, they often left the results of the "hunt" to rot - which I suppose was great for non-human consumers of flesh.) I have only hunted for food. Whatever floats yur' boat.
 
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