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I had found out recently, on the "Do you carry at school" thread, that folding knives are CA state legal at universities. I still didn't carry though, because even if it's not illegal, it isn't worth getting kicked out of school for. Well today I was bored at work so I looked up the SFSU's rules, as well as reviewed state law and city law, so here's what I found:
CA state penal code 626.10 (b) only bans fixed blades over 2 1/2" from college campuses (the only state law differentiating universities from anywhere else)
http://www.sfsu.edu/~helpdesk/docs/rules/conduct.htm
SFSU's website, prohibits the following:
So folders under 5" are a go.
San Francisco Municipal Code Article 17, Sect. 1291. Prohibiting Loitering While Carrying Concealed Weapons, shouldn't be a problem if you're a student and on campus, but it only covers concealed blades over 3", you can see the full text at: http://nt2.scbbs.com/cgi-bin/om_isa...ec. 1291&softpage=PL_frame#JUMPDEST_Sec. 1291
I called the University Police, to make sure I hadn't missed anything, and I was told that the limit is 3.5". When I asked where that was written, the student assistant on the phone was told to tell me "state law." Well, folks, state law doesn't say that, so I am happy to have learned that it is both state legal and ok by school rules for me to carry a folding knife w/a blade under 5" to school.
If you don't go to SFSU, do your homework thoroughly, you may be pleasantly surprised by what you find.
On a side note, I had assumed that both the laws and rules were far more strict than they actually are. I imagine that many other people make the same assumption. It would be interesting to find out why this is, and what its other implications are.
As I've said before, "I might obey the law, I might break the law, I'd at least like to know which I'm doing."
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Jason aka medusaoblongata
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"I have often laughed at the weaklings who call themselves kind because they have no claws"
- Zarathustra
CA state penal code 626.10 (b) only bans fixed blades over 2 1/2" from college campuses (the only state law differentiating universities from anywhere else)
http://www.sfsu.edu/~helpdesk/docs/rules/conduct.htm
SFSU's website, prohibits the following:
i. Knowing possession or use of explosives, dangerous chemicals, or deadly weapons on campus property or at a campus function, without prior authorization of the campus president.
3. The term "deadly weapons" includes any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, sling shot, billy, sandclub, sandbag, metal knuckles, any dirk, dagger, switchblade knife, pistol, revolver, or any other firearm, any knife having a blade longer than five inches, any razor with an unguarded blade, and any metal pipe or bar used or intended to be used as a club.
So folders under 5" are a go.
San Francisco Municipal Code Article 17, Sect. 1291. Prohibiting Loitering While Carrying Concealed Weapons, shouldn't be a problem if you're a student and on campus, but it only covers concealed blades over 3", you can see the full text at: http://nt2.scbbs.com/cgi-bin/om_isa...ec. 1291&softpage=PL_frame#JUMPDEST_Sec. 1291
I called the University Police, to make sure I hadn't missed anything, and I was told that the limit is 3.5". When I asked where that was written, the student assistant on the phone was told to tell me "state law." Well, folks, state law doesn't say that, so I am happy to have learned that it is both state legal and ok by school rules for me to carry a folding knife w/a blade under 5" to school.
If you don't go to SFSU, do your homework thoroughly, you may be pleasantly surprised by what you find.
On a side note, I had assumed that both the laws and rules were far more strict than they actually are. I imagine that many other people make the same assumption. It would be interesting to find out why this is, and what its other implications are.
As I've said before, "I might obey the law, I might break the law, I'd at least like to know which I'm doing."
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Jason aka medusaoblongata
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"I have often laughed at the weaklings who call themselves kind because they have no claws"
- Zarathustra