Does a giant folder have its place?

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I don't really pretend to know the answer to that question. I think it probably depends on who you ask. Some would laugh at the idea of such a knife. Others relish it and buy them up one after another finding them quite appealing. I know over the years just from making pocket clips to fit many production knives and custom folders that I've been surprised numerous times at the size of knives people call their EDC knife. I've put low riders on Camillus Cuda Max knives from China Town and Queens NY to Los Angeles knives and Denver knives to the Netherlands and all in between and I've seen some pretty dang large custom knives sent to me over the years as well as many other beasty folders for guys out there so I think it is mindset. Some consider the Spyderco Military to be a relatively small knife.

Anyway, with that thought in mind that I don't know the answer I can honestly say that what I do know is that they are a lot of fun if nothing else. The Cold Steel Rajah I is a big knife. There is no doubt about it. At 12.6 ounces and 14" open with a 6" blade it is what you would call a rather big foot print both in the hand and in the pocket. Cold Steel seems to have made a reputation on building some large examples of folders and fortunately for end line users the companies they contract with do them well. I've been using a Rajah I here in the yard preparing for something I knew I had coming. I bought the back end of a canary yellow Penske rental truck. Its a 24" long box fully enlosed and water proof. At first my wife rejected this idea and wanted a building from Lowes. This was cheaper and in my opinion it will probably outlast that building. It was also much bigger with a lot more to offer in the way of usable space. The fact that it had two doors made it all that much more appealing as I would probably not find another one like it if I tried really hard, at least local. The best part was that this box won't increase my property taxes like a permanent building would and I don't need a permit to build it. That cinched the deal for the wife and I had the okay. Once that was done I had to make some changes to the yard. Guess what came in the mail at about the time I was starting that job! All I had to do was clear the way for it and that involved hiring a service to take off some big ole box elder limbs in the front drive way overhanging the roof of our house. I was not interested in that but I had more to do after they got done and a lot of branch and hedge trimming out back to make room for my storage box. Then once it was placed I had orders to paint it white ASAP. Been working on that weather permitting since getting it.

The Rajah I was a lot of fun in the yard. I found it both comfortable and capable to the point I must say I'm very impressed and surprised at the chopping ability and potential this knife has for both a defensive weapon in the right hands, and a great camping or hiking buddy if you are just wanting to take something along that is easier to pack and easier to tote while out and about. In truth I'd have never bought this knife had it not been for the close out on it. I'm glad I did because I must admit the thought occurred to me as I was purchasing it on the net that I'd probably be listing it for sale here soon. Not happening I can tell you that much. I find I'm rather smitten for the first time by a giant folder. The Triad lock has earned bragging rights with me and I don't really care about who made it where its sold or anything else. The fact is this knife is awesome plain and simple regardless of bias toward anyone or anything before even looking at one.

Between the hired help, my big pruning shears and my Rajah I I managed to make room for my box and had it delivered right on time the other day. I emptied my U-Haul truck which I bought from U-Haul when April and I decided to move and after that I managed to make a new place to park it out by the shop that was overgrown with brush before that. I've created quite a brush pile here using both the Rajah and my pruners. Some of the jobs I used the Rajah I on are shown. Before doing anything I sliced a news paper with the knife right out of the box. That is the shorter of the two cuts shown. After doing a lot of chopping with it and chipping the blade in two places, one from a spike I didn't see and one from a dead limb I also did not see because it was above my head. I spent all of ten minutes no lie, took the chips out with the Edge Pro and touched it up nice and slick on the Sharpmaker and you see the second slice. Its ready to rock again now. Note: I also know some of these branches are probably bigger than is recommended for this folder but I wanted to see what it would do. Besides I bought two on the close out so I figured what the hey, I'll beat one up. I have and its taken it all and asked for more. No lock play. Nothing other than a bit of side to side blade play that developed but not much and easily corrected with one tweak of the pivot screw. I'm quite impressed with this knife's ability to absorb shocks that quite simply would ruin another folder of lesser build.

Anyway, I realize a giant folder is not for everyone. I can't say I plan to carry this one a lot but when I'm working in the yard or going for a walk in the woods I may just take it along for convenience sake so if nothing else should I see a nice stick that looks like it would make a good walker I can get it down right quick and use it. Enjoy. Thanks for looking.

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More pics of my box and my U-Haul parked where it never used to fit thanks to some trimming of a few limbs and a a privet hedge using the Rajah I.

This knife makes short work of smaller branches and I've found it to be quite comfortable even with a bare hand on some larger ones. Not one blister developed on my hand from numerous chops with this. I can't say that about some knives I've used for hemp rope cutting let along hard chopping.

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Hey Steve, cool story and interesting thoughts on the large folder. There must be a plain old cool factor involved with carrying and using a super large folder as well. But it is good to see it will additionally walk the walk. Nice!

On a completely unrelated note, I was looking for a bookmark on my desk yesterday and ended up picking up the business card you send me with my BM 707 clip several months ago. Cheers bud :thumbup:
 
Well, I for one am quite happy to see all of the positive posts that have popped up lately on Cold Steel. I have had and used them for many years, along with all the other brands we see here. And have been happy with them to boot.

The Triad Lock starts a whole new era for Cold Steel, I believe. I think a lot of folks who would never have bought one will at least try one now. I am truly imnpressed with the new lock, and feel it is a big step up from what was considered good locks in the recent past.

I know I am edcing the Black Rhino now, and probably for the foreseeable future, it is that good.

And yes, I am one who rather enjoys the larger folding knives. I still have not bought a Espada XL. Thinking on it, or waiting for them to do a discontinuation sale. It is a rather pricey piece.
 
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While I personally have no use for a giant folder, I am certain that some folks do.

So, yes, I think there is a place for them.
 
Sure it does, I couldn't survive with mine...:eek:

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Looks like a a lot of work for the knife. :D

I found the Rajah 1 to be pretty comfortable to use also, at 12.6 ounces it's fairly light for it's size also.
 
For me personally, I would start looking at fixed blades once the blade on a folder gets much over 4 inches. There are
defo. a few large folders in the 4-5 inch range I like but I just don't see me carrying a folder any bigger than that.
 
Great write up, as usual. I'm all in for large folders, as long as they are quality pieces. So far what I have seen of the CS mega's, a Rajah 11, they are quality knives. I also liked the Camillus Maxx'es @ 5.5" and wish I had kept the one I had. I want to get one of the HTM's though as funds permit, probably this summer. The Ontario Hossom folders are also a real favorite, and the Retribution 1 is now my daily carry since I slimmed down the handles and added a deep carry clip.

While the mega folders may not always be practical, they sure do appeal to me in a Freudian way!
 
For me personally, I would start looking at fixed blades once the blade on a folder gets much over 4 inches. There are
defo. a few large folders in the 4-5 inch range I like but I just don't see me carrying a folder any bigger than that.

+1

I'd also be inclined to use a FB for something like that, but it is interesting how well the folder handled the challenge. As far as carrying, I'm definitely in the camp of those who prefer smaller EDCs, but no harm no foul on those who prefer the larger knives. They all have their place in the world of knives.

- Mark
 
Interesting story...:thumbup:

BTW, are you on Cold Steels payroll yet? :D

Very funny. NO! Not on anyone's payroll. Never met or spoke with LT once. Only know Andrew and we've never met either. We have spoken on the phone and in email. Once was the other day when I ordered my own custom Triad American Lawman.

STR
 
I have a hard time justifying folders in general having a niche. I find fixed blades superior as far as ease of maintenance, reliability, ease on the draw, general carry, etc. I have yet to see a folder outperform a fixed blade with similar material construction and design. IMO, the only big folders that have any place are folding saws.
 
Large folders are cool and have a neato factor. I have always liked them since the XL Voyagers. In reality I don't really find a a lot of use for them. When I had a farm I usually had a machete or chainsaw strapped to the 4x4. Around town I had a machete or kaiser in my truck tool box.

I still really like them and carry them for fun but there is usually a better tool for the task.

The Rajah 1 is the bee's knees though and I do try to find reasons to use it. That "twack" when you wave it from your pocket is just priceless.
 
Really huge folders have their place, and are kind of cool in a way, but that place is not in my pocket. For me they are too large and too heavy. However, I would not want to live in a world where nobody had one in their pocket, as that would be boring.
 
Baba,
I don't think that is really a big folder. Me thinks you just have small hands. :D

I bet he is that guy from the Whopper commercial! :D

Someone privately just tried to pull the intellectual property theft card regarding that Thumb Plate pocket opener being used by Cold Steel. Try again guy. That Thumb Plate is patented and if you don't believe it look it up! Andrew deserves credit every bit as much as Ernest does and apparently the US patent office agrees. End of story case closed. Find another reason to hate Cold Steel. I'm sure you can find one if you try.

STR
 
I own a R-I and it is large and yes it has a place but imnsho primarily as a S/D blade.I EDC a BM skirmish and if I need a larger blade I go for a non-pre-broken knife [ not a folder,in other words].If you need a good laugh watch Lynn Thomsons videos with him cutting 'stuff' and him in shorts [ OMFG ].He does make a few good blades and a bunch of fantasy crap like the ball bat that is OBVIOUSLY a weapon and will get you time in the hoosgow pronto.
 
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