Does anti-gun equate to anti-knife?

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I read a disturbing post on rec.guns yesterday. Apparently, the current president of the American Pistolsmith Guild, a well respected gunsmith with over 20 years of professional experience, ordered a new computer for his business from Dell. As it turns out Dell cancelled his order without filling it. They told him that since his business was about guns he might use the computer for some nefarious and illegal purpose. I didn't make this up. It really happened.

Can this happen in the knife world as it appears to have happened in the gun world? Do anti-gun sentiments and anti-knife sentiments run parallel? Will the liberal end of corporate America try to get us to stop liking what is now apparently a politically incorrect product? I'd be interested in your views.
 
Actually I beleive they alreay are. I forget which, but a knife company posted here about a web space provder not letting them sell butterfly knives on their site because it wasnt politcly correct.
 
People are coming around lately due to 9/11. Before then, the biggest crisis for some was Starbucks running out of Half'N Half. If you notice: Many of the major players in the anti-gun movement are keeping their triple-chinned mouths shut. Many people are beginning to see that our Founding Fathers kinda knew their **** big-time and that being a closed-minded idealist longing for the false hope promised by an impossible Utopia might not be the way to go.
Up until a few months ago they just didn't get it. Now many do. Those who still don't are some dumb-*** ******-*******. There's even a very, very slight chance that there's hope for New Jersey (very slight).
Don't you dare let me hear you chant, "Hillery for President".

I just noticed that I didn't answer the question. Concealed carry of guns is taboo around here, but so far no one has had a problem with my knife carry. Any anti-knife campaign will be viewed as being way overboard on the idiot scale.
And another big crisis around here is not being able to drive your SUV because there's a light dusting of snow.
 
I just read that Weigand letter. He needs to let Dell ship him that free computer. If he doesnt want to keep it, he can easily sell it and donate the money to the NRA. That would hit Dell where it hurts; using their money to further the NRA!
 
My girlfriend was going to buy a Dell computer this weekend...I can assure you that she will now be getting another brand!! Some of this stuff just blows me away!! It's really hard for me to believe it...just glad I live in KY where I can carry a concealed pistol legally and most everyone doesn't mind you using a pocketknife in public. What is this world coming to??
 
Absolutely. If you let "them" take our guns away, knives won't be far behind - you can count on that.
 
Apparently Mr. Dell formally appologized and set the record straight. I wasn't there, but it seemed to be the result of the common knee-jerk reaction of someone (at Dell) who has no experience with firearms, ect. It's probably better for us to try to educate people rather than to be combative to their ignorance. It's often the case of people just not knowing about responsible behavior (thanks in part to the media). If their ignorance persists after thoughtful attempts to educate you may schedule them for a sterilization procedure at your local Planned Parenthood facility.
 
>"Anti-gun does equate to anti-knife."

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In some cases, perhaps, this is true. But as a blanket statement, it's nonsense. :rolleyes: I'm sure there are loads of folks who like knives and rely on them as they hike and camp and fish, etc. but who dislike guns. I, myself, do not own a gun. I don't hunt. (Okay okay, probably <i>I'M</i> a bad example, though, because I'm not anti gun at all and in fact am building a little savings to buy a shotgun for trap and skeet, which I really enjoy - and I'd love to get into bird hunting someday too.) My point, though, is that to imply that Position A <i>always</i> equals Position B is just wrong. I think the NRA and its ilk accomplish a whole lot more when they preach gun safety and knowledge and the fun that can be had when shooting is a family activity, than they do when they roll back their eyes and go into "the guhment can take my gun when they pry my cold, dead fingers off the trigger" mode. That's just my opinion.
 
MNBlade,

As a blanket statement, yup, it might not always be true. But I'd venture it is more often than not true.

Boston, MA for example has a town ordinance banning "Assault Weapons," rifles and shotguns with certain aesthetic qualities.

The city council recently introduced a proposed ban on knives with blades longer than 2 1/2", unless those knives were in a container rendering them not easily accessed. So carrying your SAK Trailmaster can net you a $300 fine, plus the usual legal hassles.

Good luck with your shotgun acquisition.

Mike
 
Actually they already are. I can't legallly
wear a blade longer than 5 1/2" in the great
state of Texas.
 
Yes Anti-gun does equal anti-knife. Before guns there were swords and govs saw fit to try to take them away from the "citizens"

Most anti gunners are anti defense and theiy perceive knives as only weapons.....
 
Does "anti-gun" equate to "anti-knife"? It is my personal opinion that, in most cases, it does. Reason? The people who are on that side of the fence equate both "gun" AND "kife" with "weapon". And something so "irrelevant" as FACTS and TRUTH won't sway them one bit - "A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still."

As a member of the gun community, I believe we LET this mess happen to us; as a member of the knife community, I believe that we CAN'T let this happen to us - we have to be PROACTIVE. And we still have that opportunity. All we have to do is get off our butts and do something - without waiting for the "other guy" to write that letter, complain to a politician, or volunteer.

Of course, the biggest obstacle is the media; especially the print media, who seem to give new meaning to the words "bias" and "hypocritical" on a daily basis!

My favorite example: a few years ago, one of the largest daily newspapers in Canada (a newspaper that prides itself on running every anti-gun editorial, article, and column it can assemble) ran a full page promotional ad to attract new advertisers. The ad had a huge photograph of two of their newspapers rolled together like the barrels of a shotgun. The "barrels" were pointed directly at the reader, with the headline that stated: "Hit 'em with both barrels!"

Hypocrisy at its finest.
 
Fred,
You are correct in that the liberal political mythical
visionaries,who know so much what is better for us to live our lives
than we do,are sure that if all weapons were banned all crime would
immediatly cease and rainbows would appear and life would be swell.
What will happen if we don't intervene and educate is the police
state mentality will roll on unchecked.Best example during the L.A.
riots many soon to be former gun control folks were alarmed when they
went to purchase shotguns that, because of the laws they supported
they were told they would have to wait according to Ca law."hey that
only applies to criminals right? not good guy JohnQ me".Well we are
rapidly heading that way.I had to go to the local I.R.S. office in
my home town.The sign on the federal Bldg.entrance now reads no
cutting devices of any kind.The Marshalls were going to make a woman
take off her 4inch acrylic fingernails because they were deemed as
lethal cutting instruments.It is very scary.
 
You bet anti-gun equates to anti-knife. Its all about people control. There is a large group within our society that does not want anyone to have access to anything that could "hurt" someone if used improperly. Until Sept 11, knives have for the most part flown under the radar. Except for kitchen knives the number of assaults or killings using knives is very small by comparison to guns. Hence that's where the anti's chose to start. The mere thought that someone could have a 3inch, sharp pocket knife on their person and be walking around out there sends shivers through the anti's little pea sized brain.
 
YES.
It's all about disarming the people, no matter what the weapon.

But what they fail to understand is that it only disarms those who obey those laws. As is evident in the "drug war", the daily police blotter, and the full prisons of this nation, we see that the American people will only obey the laws they agree with. I don't always agree with the speed limit so I don't always obey it. I agree that smoking crack is bad so I don't smoke crack. I have guns and knives (some illegal, some legal) and I will keep them until "they" come and take them.

BTW, the people will never truly be disarmed as long as there is Lowe's and Home Depot!

Power to the people,
Allen
 
For those who haven't checked Anklepocket's link above, do so.

I'm not surprised to see Satan's Mistress "Martha Stewart Living" on Handgun Control's list of "Shopping Mall" stores who contribute a share of their profits to the gun grabbing idiots, but go to "Hobbies" and see what's there:

"Swiss Army Depot."

Selling watches, bags, and of course, Wenger and Victorinox knives...:eek: :confused:

Probably a retail outlet, but disturbing nonetheless.

Karl
 
I've printed the list and you can bet that I will alter my shopping from now on.
 
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