Does this look right??

I would defer to Codger on this, but the fact that it is polished so highly causes me to suspect that at least it's not in "as new" condition. I sincerely doubt that kind of a polish came off the production line.

I suppose if you wanted to really stretch and fabricate you could imagine that the Schrade emplyee bought it for himself and then polished it up at the plant for his own use and then decided to sell it.........Nope, that stinks too.

Paul
 
The jigging looks unusual to me, and there does not appear to be a pattern number on the back of the blade. That in itself is a red flag for me. I prefer a Schrade Walden has a pattern number that I can find in the catalog or brochure pages.

Is the absence of a pattern stamp uncommon, especially on a Schrade Walden or Schrade Cut Co?
 
Charlie,
I think that's more of a customized knife. Any bone Schrade Waldens were usually done with the old Ulster peachseed jigged scales. That's not to say someone didn't get a hold of some of the old jigged bone Cut.Co. scales and made a quick little personalized barlow over the old lunch break:confused:

Eric
 
Could be Eric. I thought re-handle myself. But I can't think of why the tang would be shaved, unless it was restamped, or a pen blade spring was used (thinner), or both!!
 
How is this current auction any different to any other? It would appear the seller has put this item up in good faith and perhaps bought it in good faith and how is this any different to any other of the countless Schrade knockups which I thought we were not allowed to discuss whilst auction was actually in progress? Rules for some and not others?
 
In the hopes that this will be read with an open mind;
I believe that I have posted a warning in GOOD FAITH, so my fellow collectors will not pay too much for an altered knife. I could not stand around and let someone I may like get sucked in. It is a subtle knife, and it looks good in many ways. My intention is clear here (to some). Of course I could be bad-mouthing the auction to drive the price down, HMMMMMM?? I guess we'll have to wait and see if I snipe it with a clearing bid, heedless of Koala traps, and damn the torpedos!! AARRGGGHHHH!!!!
 
Good link Lobo, thanks!! The definitive answer, straight from the horse's mouth. And in English!!
 
Hey guys, been busier than all get out lately but been following the boards. I could be wrong about this but I do believe it's a fake. I've always been under the assumption (and I could be wrong here) that there was always a period after N and Y in New York. Maybe they're there and I don't see them but I have a hinky feeling this is not an actual Schrade knife. As I said, I could and am often wrong but I've never seen a tang stamp without the . after N and Y. Also, the NY part of the tang stamp just doesn't look right to me. Perhaps lrv, codger or orvet could shed more light.

DB
 
It's a strange one. Handles are definitely odd, as are the pins. I believe the blades are genuine, especially since it looks like a hot stamp (although it is quite deep), although perhaps they were ground smooth due to excessive pitting? With all that polishing who knows what they looked like before hand.The rear tang of the master does look a little wavy, possibly due to pitting? Doesn't make sense for someone to go through all the trouble of re-stamping a knife that isn't worth hundreds of dollars. I definitely wouldn't think of it as a mint example of an actual production knife, that's for sure.
 
Look at pic #2, the back of the clip blade.
It appears that there was some pitting, or possible numbers that were buffed out. It appears to be rough under the polishing.
The polishing doesn't not appear correct to me either. If it was mirror polished, then you could see clearly reflections of things in the bolsters or blades. Instead it looks sort of hazy & I do see the waviness in the bolster.

IIRC, if these were polished, it was usually only on the mark side of the blade & the pile side had a brush finish like you get from Scotch Brite belts/wheels. I don't ever recall seeing any of these that were so highly polished through out the whole knife. Then as I said, the polish doesn't look right. It is too hazy for a high polished piece of steel or nickel silver. It almost has the finish I get when I am sanding bolsters with micron paper up to 8000 grit, shiny, but not the mirror finish one achieves with buffing wheels & fine compound.

Just my opinion, but it looks like it has been thoroughly reworked to me. I am not an expert on the Schrade bone jigging patterns, but it doesn't look quite right to me. The pics are too dark to show the jigging very well.

Dale
 
Any thoughts on several auction for US Schrades with blade stamping ground off, offered as seconds???
Duce
 
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=489018
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Many thanks to Blues for clarifying the issue. eBay is the primary source of Schrade knives, and without a certain amount of freedom to discuss ongoing auctions there would be a large gap in the Schrade forum.

Look at pic #2, the back of the clip blade.
It appears that there was some pitting, or possible numbers that were buffed out.
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That jumped out at me also. It's apparant the knife has been recently buffed and cleaned, destroying any of the item's historic value or collector interest.

Regarding the handles, I suspect it's a customized Schrade knife. Could it have come from a Schrade employee's personal collection and have originated from the Schrade factory? Perhaps, but the seller offers no evidence and it's equally likely that the knife was rebuilt at the same time it was buffed.

I'd give $25 for it as a using knife.

-Bob
 
It should be interesting how newbies who dont know the parameters discuss current auctions from now on and how they get jumped on by the pack.
Charlie you just did me a favour mate for which I thank you ..that Mint Schrade Fish knife with the genuine Schrade Walden sheath you rejected without seeing it..well the sellers included it to me as a free gift as a surprisewith my last purchase,it truely is an absolute pristine genuine Schrade now I see it personally so there remains so many things we simply dont know about Schrade and it is hard to be conclusive as dismissing anything as non genuine or tampered with. Pity our beloved Uncle Albert wasnt here to help with adjudications as he would undoubtedly know,so we all remain purely subjective in all our opinions as our knowledge grows through this and more particularly lrv's site. Hoo Roo
 
It should be interesting how newbies who dont know the parameters discuss current auctions from now on and how they get jumped on by the pack.
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If someone has a serious question regarding the authenticity or origin of an eBay Schrade they should post an auction link, as is commonly done in the Bernard Levine forum section.

But if someone is merely posting a "Look at this!" or "What the heck is this?" they should wait until after the auction has ended.

-Bob
 
Larry303 said:
It should be interesting how newbies who dont know the parameters discuss current auctions from now on and how they get jumped on by the pack.
Charlie you just did me a favour mate for which I thank you ..that Mint Schrade Fish knife with the genuine Schrade Walden sheath you rejected without seeing it..well the sellers included it to me as a free gift as a surprisewith my last purchase,it truely is an absolute pristine genuine Schrade now I see it personally so there remains so many things we simply dont know about Schrade and it is hard to be conclusive as dismissing anything as non genuine or tampered with. Pity our beloved Uncle Albert wasnt here to help with adjudications as he would undoubtedly know,so we all remain purely subjective in all our opinions as our knowledge grows through this and more particularly lrv's site. Hoo Roo
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You are welcome. Enjoy your free knife. I wish you no ill; only thoughtfulness and peace!
I assume we will all gently guide newbies, until they prove less than innocent. Yoo Too
 
Duce53 said:
Any thoughts on several auction for US Schrades with blade stamping ground off, offered as seconds???
Duce
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Duce- I picked up a few of the green ones 5otg and 53otg I think at smkw while I was there on vacation. I looked pretty hard to find inperfections and all I could see was maybe a pin was sunk a little far into the handle or something like that. Just my opnion but these are ok by me especially if you get it for a good price and using it for an edc knife. -Joel
 
I have a couple of the SP3 Lightweights with the tangs ground off. I bought them extra cheap just to use, and found no function defects. They have, IMHO, no collector value (any more than an obviously used and common knife), but are good tools still.

Michael
 
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