Does your Emerson rattle? PLEASE HELP!!!

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SpyderJon

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Howdy all! I just got a CQC7b and I'm happy with the knife when its open, and the lockup is good, but the darned thing RATTLES when its closed. Its the blade that's causing the rattle, but I'm not sure if its the detent or not. Is this normal? I have a Mach 1 here and THAT doesn't rattle. Should I send it back for another one?

Sincerely,
Anthony
 
I notice that some folders, when they are closed, the blade kind of is a bit loose and hits the liners. But when you open it, it firms up.

Maybe you can tighten the pivot screw and this will centre the blade more and thus prevent rattles.
 
Okay, so I've tracked the problem to the stop pin. It is just rattling between the liners. Is this normal?? Its almost like its not long enough. It rattles if you don't have the blade secured against the pin, and it only stops when the knife is fully open. Ideas???

Sincerely,
Anthony
 
No Emerson should rattle. The stop pins shouldn't move side to side or rotate.

How loose is your pivot screw? If the pivot is loose it's possible the pin has room to slop from side to side. Assuming the slop is side to side, I would ad a bit of tape to one or both ends to help trap it between the scales when the knife is assembled.

FYI - A CQC-7 stop pin should be about .187 in diameter
 
Roshi,
The stop pin is literally loose in the pocket. I mean it comes flopping out if you take the scale off. I don't think tape would work because the pin actually spins AND goes from side to side. Its rock solid when its locked up, but its not like the Mach 1 I have. That pin is solid in the hole. THIS pin even looks a little short! The pivot, by the by, is tight. I tightened it as far as I could, but you STILL had the side-to-side slop. What a disappointment. On top of that some of the finish was rubbed off the thumb disc. Now I can live with cosmetic stuff, but the pin issue is starting to chap my @ss. Again, should I send it back? I just got it today!

Sincerely,
Anthony
 
The stop pin? That sucks. Sorry, looks like you'll be using em's CS.
 
Well, I'm hoping that the retail seller will take it back and give me another one. I asked them to check the knife before sending to make sure it was a good piece, but I guess that didn't happen. Depending on how they react I guess is whether or not they'll get an endorsement from me and future business. Sucks, though, because I REALLY like the knife. It was the ONLY place I could find an EKI w/the green G-10 scales. I'll have to wait until TUESDAY to call the place- as I've heard that sending an email is pretty pointless. I'll keep y'all posted, and CERTAINLY ask if they have another to send before sending this one back. I LOVE the green G-10. Otherwise, the knife was perfect :grumpy: !

Sincerely,
Anthony
 
Please note the stop pin on a CQC-7 standard size is shorter than other Emersons. It is .280 while others are .370.

However, it should not flop around as you have described. Send it to EKI for repairs or exchange it with your dealer.
 
Roshi,
Thanks for the info. I'm going to contact the dealer on Tuesday. I can deal with the stop pin being shorter than other Emersons, however this thing doesn't even look like it Belongs in the knife. It almost FELL OUT when I took off the scale. I took it off because, never having disassembled an Emerson, I thought there might be a screw in there for adjusting it. There wasn't. In fact, if you look at the knife from the top when its closed you'd swear that you could SEE the end of the pin- its THAT short. Anyhoo, I'll keep you posted. I'd rather get a replacement than send it in, but I want those green scales, so if I have to I'll send it in. Is Emerson's warranty service good?

Sincerely,
Anthony
 
After many emails and phone calls, the dealer I got my Emerson from hasn't seen fit to respond to me, so I sent an email directly to Emerson about sending it in. I find the willingness to take someone's money and yet give NO support after the sale to be reprehensible. And the fact that when you put in an email at a dealer's website generates a generic "we'll get back to you soon" message- and THEN they don't even bother to give you a call or a follow-up email to be a complete joke. This is far from satisfactory.

Sincerely,
Anthony
 
Anthony,

1. CALL EKI, don't email them. They're not the best at email. On the phone, they're much better.

2. Some of the earlier EKIs have funny stop pins where one side is tapered. You might be seeing the tapered portion when you look down at it when it's assembled.

Often, I've found the tapered side will not be a tight fit, while the other side is almost press-fit in, it's so tight. Either way, EKI CS should get you straighted out.

Don't hesitate to tell them that it was a problem from the dealer and also who the dealer was.

-j
 
biogon said:
Anthony,

1. CALL EKI, don't email them. They're not the best at email. On the phone, they're much better.

Don't hesitate to tell them that it was a problem from the dealer and also who the dealer was.

-j
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Email doesn't work well for service since they get so many emails. Call them.
 
Well yall...I jsut won a 2004 Bullnose karambit. I really love it...but jsut noticed something about it....it too rattles. It is the stop pin, and i can tell,. The pivot is nice and tight, but the pin rattles, and i can turn it...time to talk to the guys and get it fixed i guess.


At least I own this knife and love it.
 
Yeah, I called. They emailed me back, but just ended up telling me to send it in. Screw the dealer I sent it in to EKI. I hope they make it right b/c I really like that knife!

Sincerely,
Anthony
 
Hey Jon...I went to my dealer today. I won it form them as a door prize in a little get otgether they had. They offered to give me a new one, but I refused as I had paind nothing for my bullnose. I jsut wanted them to know, and so they could check their others. I plan on calling tomorrow morning then sending my new toy in...It's good to know that EKI has top notch CS.
 
Plumber, I would have GLADLY worked things out with my dealer; however my dealer doesn't seem to want to make this right. He's ignored my phone messages, and my emails, and there's been no communication from them. I will never buy from them again and won't advise other people to buy from them either. Its just that I don't see why you take someone's $ for a knife and then don't care if they're satisfied with their experience. I'm glad you had a good dealer who obviously cares about even someone who DIDN'T pay for their knife being happy with the product. My CQC is at EKI and I'm waiting for it to get back. Of course this experience hasn't necessarily soured me on EKI product. After all I still like the CQC and I really want a lefty mini-comm now. So, I'm just upset at the dealer, wanker that he's been in this situation :mad: !!!

Sincerely,
Anthony
 
Hey there Jon....I jsut sent mine out. Called EKI this morning and they jsut said to send it in. I won the knife, and I would feel bad if they would have jsut replaced for free, seeing as I had paid nothing for it in the first place. I still have my mini 7B and commander to carry, so no skin off my back!
 
I just realized that the stop pin in my Comm 2004 rattles when the folder is half open. When it is closed or locked open it is tight, when it is braced against the tang.

However, I'm not going to send it in because I think it's just part of way the folder is put together, since it has to have disassembly capability, those parts that aren't screwed in are always going to be a bit loose, it isn't nice, but I don't think it's a problem.

If the stop pin were to fit well, I might not be able to tighten the pivot very much, so maybe it's got to be a bit shorter to allow that margin.....thus the movement.

I'll live with it unless it starts to become a problem.
 
SYK, I wouldn't have minded if the pin didn't rattle when the knife was closed. However, when walking down the street, I don't like my keys to make any noise so I keep that bundle to a minimum; I don't like change to rattle so I carry it in a pouch; and I DEFINITELY don't want my knives rattling in there.

If this is typical of Emersons (that the pin is loose set into the knife) then I can get used to that. However, this rattle was NOISY and I didn't think that was normal. I can get used to anything when it comes to knives, so that's why I asked about the rattle- to see if this is normal with EKI knives. I don't think it is, but if the knife is quiet while it's closed and open, I don't really care about it being loose in the opening.

Can't wait until it gets back from EKI!!!

Sincerely,
Anthony
 
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