Don't fight with your knife!

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Of the many people who had a strong influence on my life, aside from my father, was Mr. Van, our scout master. A tough old mud Marine, who had very distinct ideas on many subjects, most of which he tried to pound into our young minds. He was a wealth of good information, and we kids absorbed it in like dry sponges. After all, he was the demi God of our troop. We looked up to him, and if he told us we were going on a hike to hell, we'd not ask any questions, but simply look for some asbestos underwear.

One day, at the regular meeting in the basement of the church, a new scout has a knife dangling from his belt on the official brass hanger. Mr. Van was going down the line inspecting our scout knives. Mr. Van was a stickler for all gear being spotless and ready for use, including our scout knives. Woe to the scout who had a knife that was not clean and sharp. He got to the newbie and went to open the knife. He had a bit of a hard time with it, and he felt the edge and handed it back to the scout, closed.

"Let me see you open that, son." he said.

The boy took it, and after a bit of a struggle, got it opened on the second try. He cracked his thumbnail doing it.

"The man at the store told me it would break in." the boy said a little sheepishly.

"Break in, huh!" said Mr. Van. He muttered something under his breath that we didn't quite make out, but it was clear he wasn't happy. He finished his inspection, and then stood in front of us with that strait backed parade ground stance.

"Alright!" he said, his voice echoing off the ceiling. "Listen up. There's things everyman should always have in his pockets. A knife, bandana or two, something to make a fire with, and maybe even a small flashlight. When you walk out your door in the morning, you can't predict what's going to happen before you get home that night. You may need a bandage, and a clean bandana will help, maybe even save a life. You may end up needing to make a fire, for some reason. Matches or a lighter is good. You may need a sharp knife. Some days you may not need a knife at all, but someday you may need it so bad, it just may save a life. Maybe even your own."

He paused, those light blue-gray eyes drilling into each of us in turn.

"If some day, you need that knife, it may be under less than ideal conditions. It may be under very bad conditions. You may be cold, or wet, or both. You may have just survived an accident of some sort, and be injured. The last thing you need then is to have to fight with your knife. The last thing you need in a time of crisis is to cut yourself trying to open a stiff hard sharp blade. Like this young man's knife! You don't need a spring to keep a knife open. The act of cutting takes care of that, if you use it right. All the spring has to do is keep the thing closed in your pocket. "

Mr. Van turned to the unlucky young scout.

"Where did you buy that knife, son?" he asked the scout.

"The sports store up by the grocery store, sir."

"Okay, scout, I'm going to pick you up in the morning bright and early, and we're taking the knife back to the store and get you one a little better. Okay scout?" he told the surprised boy.

"Yes sir!" replied the scout. "But I don't know if I have the receipt for it. He may not take it back."

"He'll take it, let me worry about that." Mr. Van said quietly.

And he did. Billy, the young scout, told us the next meeting how Mr. Van had the store owner lay out almost all the scout knives on the counter, and Billy tried them all, picking out the best, smoothest one. The store keeper made a token protest, but after getting the stare, he backed off. Mr. Van had that effect on people. We knew that stare well. The feeling of twin blue laser beams searing the very depths of the soul was not a pleasant thing.

Like most of Mr.Vans teachings, that stuck in my mind. To this day, I still try out a new knife, and ask myself if I could open this with cold or wet hands with no problem.
 
I have a wonderful old Boker stockman in carbon steel that I rarely carry because of 'weak' backsprings. I think I'll dig it out and carry it tomorrow.:o:D
Thanks again sir.
 
Awesome story!

"Alright!" he said, his voice echoing off the ceiling. "Listen up. There's things everyman should always have in his pockets. A knife, bandana or two, something to make a fire with, and maybe even a small flashlight.

I was never in the scouts, but I am proud to say that I currently have every one of those things in my pockets right now and always do.
 
I remember my Scout Master telling us: "A Scout is always prepared." I asked, "prepared for what?" He answered, "Anything." That has stuck with me, and I always strive to be prepared...for anything!
 
I have a wonderful old Boker stockman in carbon steel that I rarely carry because of 'weak' backsprings. I think I'll dig it out and carry it tomorrow.:o:D
Thanks again sir.

I could almost say the same thing, except I sold my Boker... thanks for another great story Carl.
 
I'm currently mulling over a Buck 389 I just got yesterday and whether or not I want to return it because it is a little tough to open. My Case Canoe is in form repair because it was just too hard to open. From what little I know about traditional knives thus far, what I do know is that if you plan on carrying it, jigged tyrannosaurus bone with solid gold bolsters and an elvish blade mean squat if you can't open the darned thing.
 
Great story! I always get excited when I have seen that you posted a new one--make my night everytime.

-Mark
 
That story sure sends home my feelings about my knives. I will never carry just one knife, always wear a belt, bandana, and a lighter or matches. Being told that a particular knife I just bought isn't designed for "that tough of work" sure seems silly to me. "You never know what the day will bring, but you know what you can bring for the day."


Love your stories, and I can appreciate your writting style.

-Xander
 
Thank you, Carl. Every young person needs a Mr. Van or two in their lives. Thank you for sharing with all of us.
 
Thanks Carl, after breaking in a very stubborn knife which cut me 5 times during that time I c an relate this story fully. Thank you again (but knife is now broken in)
 
great story jackknife. if one ca'nt open a knife it has little use. i'm sorry to say my collection has several i would'nt carry for use. these knives are relegated to collection only.--dennis
 
Great story Carl. Thanks for echoing what I try to teach my kids, always be ready for anything.
 
Great story Carl.

Never been in the boy scouts, but your stories made me never leave home with a pocket knife(currently my Pioneer and Classic) and a small flash light.

I even carry a savety pin and a Sears screwdriver in my wallet.

Never caught the utility of a bandana though. Don't even have one.

However the action of both my Pioneer and Classic are super smooth yet sturdy.
 
Great story Carl.

Never been in the boy scouts, but your stories made me never leave home with a pocket knife(currently my Pioneer and Classic) and a small flash light.

I even carry a savety pin and a Sears screwdriver in my wallet.

Never caught the utility of a bandana though. Don't even have one.

However the action of both my Pioneer and Classic are super smooth yet sturdy.

And your pioneer is just the civilian version of the old Vic soldier. If a more bullet proof pocket knife than the soldier/pioneer/SI exists, I'd like to see it. These knives have gained such a reputation for long term rugged service, they are almost an industry standard. As it should be.

This post was inspired by the thread of a fellow forumite not being able to open a GEC. I've long watched and pondered the how and why pocket knives are made with such over done springs. I've been kicking around this rock a long time, and even when I was a kid, this was considered a bad trait in a pocket knife. Growing up in an age that every man who had pants on, was expected to have a knife in one of those pockets, I got to see and handle a lot of pocket knives. Most every knife my elders ever handled me when I admired it, was able to be pulled open without a struggle by a 12 year old boy. We're talking 1950's here. Now, it seems like the boutique knife companies have convinced too many knife buyers that a heavy spring is a good thing.

A few weeks ago, I had the chance to limp around the Mason-Dixon knife show in Frederick, and handle some new GEC's. About half of them I had to fight to get it open, a few I couldn't open, but two different conductors and a jack I could pull open with no problem at all. So GEC can make a knife that is able to be opened without a life and death struggle. Amazing inconsistancy for a high dollar knife. On the other hand, I've yet in this life time, to run into a Victorinox or Wenger I had any trouble opening. Yet the Victorinox soldier and Wenger SI are perfect examples of a heavy duty pocket knife that you can count on. I hear about people complaining that Buck has soft springs. Yet from 1967 to the early 1990's, I used a Buck stockman as my edc. This was on four different continents over 25 years. It never failed me, no matter what it was being used for. I've yet to run into a Case I have trouble opening, even the little peanuts.

There just ain't no good reason to make a back spring that strong that you have to fight with a knife to open it. If Victorinox, Buck, and Case can make good real world knives with consistent springs, there's a lesson there.

Carl.
 
Awesome story Carl!!I have a Schatt&Morgan Toothpick that I never have carried because of that very problem.It will break your thumbnail if your not careful.To me,there is no excuse for that stiff of a spring.-Jim
 
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