Double Bladed Spyder anyone??

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AS a few of you that know me you also know that one of my most dearly beloved Spyders ever is the immortal DYAD model. No I'm not talking the little FRN C-39 version even though I do like that one too>> but I am referring to the late, great C-44 double bladed, big dog DYAD. To me it's the epitome of what Spyderco is personified in one folder>> with the best of both worlds.

Well I've been beating the drum for a sprint run of the C-44 or even a reintroduction of a possible new Dyad with H-1 or even one of the Supersteels. But now I'm kind of resigned to maybe thinking along the lines of a completely new double bladed Spyder.

But the more I think and meditate on it maybe it's just high time for a completely new double bladed Spyder with a completely new concept. What do you all think about that? And what would be YOUR ideal double bladed Spyder?

I would like maybe a bold PE blade similar to the Military and maybe a serrated Hawkbill> Now that would be a really cool 2 bladed folder. Let's talk about this shall we?
 
The Spyderhole makes a multi-bladed folder very difficult to design. By necessity, the blade has to stick out a ways from the handle when closed, which makes holding it comfortably an issue. Compare, say, the MicroDyad to a traditional Peanut. One is a whole lot easier to wrap your fingers around without getting hotspots. The curve of a hawkbill, which sticks even further above the handle than normal for a Spydie, would make this even more of an issue. A handle shaped something like the Barong's would help for some blade shapes, but not hawkbills.

The elongated leaf blades like the Barong and Lum Chinese, where there isn't a hump for the hole, are probably the best shapes for a multi-bladed folder. A Trapper style, where the blades both pivot on the same end of the handle, as opposed to the opposite-end style (Moose or Muskratish) that all the existing multi-bladed Spydies and byrds have used, might have possibilities.
 
Interesting idea, but not something I think would sell very well, even to us knife nuts.

If you're thinking of a full size knife, the thickness of most of Spyderco's blade would make the knife so big, thick and heavy that most people wouldn't want to carry it.

And, as randomlooker pointed out, it couldn't possibly be a comfortable knife to use since the opening hole means the blades have to be very wide.

The only way it may work is if the blades were set into the handle like the double bladed version of the 110 that Buck made a few years back that had a 110 and 112 blade coming from the same bolster.

For a collection piece it would be pretty nifty, but I don't think a full size double bladed knife would work well as a carry piece.

Compression locks on both sides COULD cut down some of the thickness though I don't know what that would do to liner strength.
 
well it could be done, Charlie Mike waved and double edged his Police 3 G10, it looks like a very mean knife.
 
Well guys I just don't think it's a overly difficult design to accomplish. The C-44 itself is a rather decent design and I never have any problem implementing the use of either one of the Spyderholes on either blade of my personal C-44 that I carry from time to time.

OK for instance if one blade is a Hawkbill blade that would have the blade protruding enough to have the Spyderhole easily accessible. With the C-44 you already have a template of sorts for the design of a double bladed model. The idea of having a full SE and full PE at your fingertips is just absolutely a great concept for many people who need both variants in their cutting chores.

As far as some of you all thinking it wouldn't sell well:confused: Well all I can say to that is every time I see either a big or small Dyad go up on Ebay there is never any shortage of bidders. I'm still not giving up on the idea of an H-1 Dyad because there are so many people who work around salt water who could dearly use such a folder.
 
Just take the full-sized Dyad and replace the "alligator" SE blade with a serrated hawkbill blade.

Not sure of the size of the C44, but they could use whichever blade fits best, Tasman Salt or Spyderhawk.

The components are already there, they just need to be assembled! :D:thumbup:
 
How about something like a traditional saddlehorn? That's a big folder with the butt curved down a lot, which gives the inside curve you need for the Spyderholes to nestle into.

Here's a two-blade saddlehorn:

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I'd like to see it done in the style of the C44, but with blade profiles similar to the C50 Centofante II. The lack of a hump on the blade would necessitate larger cutouts on the handles to access the holes, but would give much more comfortable grip in use. The biggest problem I can forsee at this time is the thickness. The C44 has a center liner, but no liners under the Micarta scales, leaving it quite thin in the pocket. By comparison, the fully linered Byrd Wings is a brick. Since Sal once posted that one thing he learned from making linerless Micarta knives was not to, I worry that a side by side blade configuration will wind up too thick to carry except in a belt pouch.

I really think a two blade lobster pattern with a curved handle carrying a PE blade like the Dyad on the inside curve and a serrated hawkbill like the Spyderhawk on the outside would be interesting, but I don't know if it would sell. I'd buy one or two, but I may be the only one.
 
yablanowitz said:
I really think a two blade lobster pattern with a curved handle carrying a PE blade like the Dyad on the inside curve and a serrated hawkbill like the Spyderhawk on the outside would be interesting, but I don't know if it would sell. I'd buy one or two, but I may be the only one.
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Nope, cause I would be in line to get one too! :D
 
Boy, this is weird - I bought an Endura 4 from Julian (J's Knives & More) and after looking at it, and my original Endura 1, I got to thinking how it would be nice to have a PE and SE blade in one knife, full length edges on both.

Julian had cut a homemade wave into the one I bought, and I reprofiled the top of the blade to remove the wave cut. It gave me a blade similar to the Wegner, and the grip of the knife when it's closed is not really uncomfortable. I'd love to see a two-bladed Endura, if it could be done.

thx - cpr
 
I don't have anything wrong with the original Dyad design, I know I would buy at least one if they did a sprint.
 
randomlooker said:
The Spyderhole makes a multi-bladed folder very difficult to design.
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True. I could, and would, live with a nail nick ... In fact I'd prefer them on a knife like this. So now the question is: Where can we put the hole where it won't compromise strength?

Gordon
 
I want a Dyad Salt with a SE Atlantic Salt blade and PE Pacific Salt blade.
That thing wound be big, but I like big.
 
Joshua J. said:
I want a Dyad Salt with a SE Atlantic Salt blade and PE Pacific Salt blade.
That thing wound be big, but I like big.
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Yeah JJ I would really love an H-1 Dyad Salt. I would think that would be a super seller among fishermen, sailors and the vast outdoor crowd in general.

And like I said the original C-44 Dyad was a really nice and very functional design. I would find it difficult to come up with a design that would overshadow the C-44.

I"m also surprised that our brothers and sisters in the armed forces aren't demanding a great double bladed Spyder. Because once you do indeed discover just how functional and great Spyderedged blades are you just don't want to do without them. That streamlined, clippoint plain edged blade on the Dyad is just great. As long as I draw breath I will not let this idea die on the vine.

But at the same time I still very much welcome a new double bladed Spyder if they choose to go back to the drawing board.
 
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