Double @ Triple Chos Khukuri

mohd

mohd

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Pakcik Bill - all this while we discussed about Single Cho Khukuris! - CS has come out with Khukuris without Cho! - have you ever seen a Double @ Triple Chos Khukuri?

I guess a Double @ Triple Chos Khukuri look unique - just imagine a 19" Khukuri with triple chos in our hand:

1) The 1st one is a normal size Cho nearby the handle.
2) The 2nd Cho about 1/4" in front of the 1st Cho and smaller size than the 1st one.
3) The 3rd Cho about 1/4" in front of the 2nd Cho and smaller size than the 2nd one.

Those Chos might be usefull for MA guys to trap their opponent's weapon.

Please ask Pala about this! Who knows maybe HI will be the 1st one to come out with this type of Khukuris - A BREAKOUT IN KHUKURI HISTORY!

Rusty and Jim March might be interested to own this model! Insyaa-Allaah! ship to me the 1st production of this model!!!

 
Errrr...Mohd? One comment: the problem with relying on the Cho to catch an opponent's blade edge is that if it doesn't work quite right, there's no "safety net". You're in trouble.

Now, I know the FMA preference for dealing with a big enemy incoming blade is to "get the hell out of the way" - they dodge in specific patterns of footwork. They often also counter-attack the incoming enemy limb, regardless of whether or not it's empty hand, stick or blade. But in essense, they've got "two seperate things happening" and if the counter-attack part fails, hey, they still *dodged*! One of the two parts can fail and they're still alive.

Now, from what reading I've done, Bando is somewhat similar. The patterns of movement are supposedly different in detail but many of the basic concepts transfer well between the FMAs (Filipino Martial Arts) and Bando - do some digging and you'll see Bando seminars advertized at FMA websites and there's generally much respect between the various FMAs and Bando.

What it seems to add up to is, Chos don't have a "blocking the other guy's edge" use. No matter how many are on there
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. Further evidence: the Cold Steel non-Cho Khukuris were what were originally recognised by the Bando Federation as being kick-tail weapons. That was before Kami, Bill and HI changed everybody's opinion of what a real Nepalese Khukuri could be.

Now, I COULD BE WRONG. For starters, god(s) only knows what sort of traditional bladework systems were taught in various parts of the Himalayas. Some may have used the Chos in defense. But...it's not something I'd personally rely on my skill to pull off because if you don't make that weird block, you might as well bend over and kiss your posterior goodbye.

My $.02 as a "book learning only" student of this stuff!

Jim March
 
I am not aware of any weapons, blade training in Nepal, or among Ghorkhas. It seems to be OJT.

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Mohd, according to lots of old posts by Bill, you can't have a khukuri without a cho. A cho is part of the defination of what a khukuri is. It would be like asking for a khukuri without the curve, it would be a knife, possibly even a nice one, but it would not be a khukuri.

-Cliff
 
Without a cho of some kind the kamis would not consider the knife to be a khukuri. Two or three chos? I have no idea what they would think about this. Omitting a cho is one thing, adding a couple of extra quite another. I suspect they would think that crazy old American Bena is up to more of his tricks.

Uncle Bill
 
I personally would not have any interest in a mutant khukuri with extra chos, any more than I would want a dog with extra tails.

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Namaste,
Jeff Paulsen
 
a dog with extra tails
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Jeff - if you have a dog with extra tail - then you & your dog's pix will appear on papers & TVs! Hee ... hee ...
 
Jim,

From the American Bando Association's "Kukri: Sword of the Gurkha Warriors [WWII Story]" by Dr. Gyi, Section B7a recognizes the use of the cho as a valid explanation of the cho:

"The British [military historians] claim that the notch was made to catch or stop the enemy's sword from slipping or sliding into the hand in close quarter sword to sword combat."


Tim
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I have noted that on our website, too. The truth is nobody knows why the cho is there or if it has any purpose -- it has been there too long and oral tradition tends to mix and corrupt. I am almost certain the original purpose was one of religious significance but I can't prove this nor can anybody else.

I once asked a kami why he put the cho in a blade and he said, "because it has always been there and without it the knife is not a khukuri."

Uncle Bill
 
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