Doug, Could we work on knives on airplanes again?

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Critter

I dont always want to check a bag to carry a leathermen/SAK/pocketknife.

Id even take a compromise where they secured it during the flight.

 

[DennisM]

Kinda hard to vet sane from insane. If they were to stop one from something ... it would be discrimination and then a lawsuit would follow. America is nuts with liberal rights these days. Anyone can go rogue - even people in trusted careers like doctors, police and military have proven that. What is to prevent a hijack? I would not want to put my life or any of my loved ones in the hands of a stewardess.

 

[DMG]

Kinda hard to vet sane from insane. If they were to stop one from something ... it would be discrimination and then a lawsuit would follow. America is nuts with liberal rights these days. Anyone can go rogue - even people in trusted careers like doctors, police and military have proven that. What is to prevent a hijack? I would not want to put my life or any of my loved ones in the hands of a stewardess.

There are air marshalls, not stewardesses to defend against this sort of problem. It is really easy to get stuff past the TSA people do it accidentally every day.

This law screws the law abiding and does nothing to criminals. It is based on fear, not logic.

If you have 5 strong, prepared but unarmed hijacters on a flight they can improvise a weapon and kill people anyway.

The law makes no sense

 

[jfk1110]

There are air marshalls, not stewardesses to defend against this sort of problem. It is really easy to get stuff past the TSA people do it accidentally every day.

This law screws the law abiding and does nothing to criminals. It is based on fear, not logic.

If you 5 strong, prepared but unarmed hijacters on a fight they can improvise a weapon and kill people anyway.

The law makes no sense

Absolutely!!!

There are 3 kind's of people in this world......Wolves...........Sheep.........& Sheepdogs......
Many more sheep out there than sheep dogs though......Seems to be an abundance of wolves recently too!!!
Thanx Joe!!!

 

[Critter]

Critter

I dont always want to check a bag to carry a leathermen/SAK/pocketknife.

Id even take a compromise where they secured it during the flight.

The simple answer is "no" After the TSA proposed allowing small knives on planes (SAK Classic for example) the flight attendants union went ballistic and stormed Congress. The result was the the "No Knives on Planes" amendment to the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018. Unless you think you can get Congress to change it, good luck with that, we are stuck with the ban forever.

 

[DMG]

The simple answer is "no" After the TSA proposed allowing small knives on planes (SAK Classic for example) the flight attendants union went ballistic and stormed Congress. The result was the the "No Knives on Planes" amendment to the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018. Unless you think you can get Congress to change it, good luck with that, we are stuck with the ban forever.

How stupid. They all die of cancer from radiation or alcoholism anyway.

 

[jfk1110]

How stupid. They all die of cancer from radiation or alcoholism anyway.

Not quick enough.

 

[SimplyMinded]

There are air marshalls, not stewardesses to defend against this sort of problem. It is really easy to get stuff past the TSA people do it accidentally every day.

This law screws the law abiding and does nothing to criminals. It is based on fear, not logic.

If you have 5 strong, prepared but unarmed hijacters on a flight they can improvise a weapon and kill people anyway.

The law makes no sense

Most pilots and flight crew can carry now too iirc.

 

[DMG]

Most pilots and flight crew can carry now too iirc.

Good

 

[SimplyMinded]

Good

I agree. I read an article about how they had to develop ammo that has less of a chance of piercing the hull and windows on.planes for Air Marshall's and flight crew. It was neat, explained how the bullets are frangible and made of some alloy that is kill-capable on a human but not as prone to damage the plane. This was a while back, who knows what they have now.

 

[DMG]

I agree. I read an article about how they had to develop ammo that has less of a chance of piercing the hull and windows on.planes for Air Marshall's and flight crew. It was neat, explained how the bullets are frangible and made of some alloy that is kill-capable on a human but not as prone to damage the plane. This was a while back, who knows what they have now.

When I was a kid there was something called the Glaser Safety Slug that was basically a bullet shell full of shot that was supposed to prevent over penetration. I think I have seen some frangible bullets more recently used for air Marshalls.

 

[Hickory n steel]

When I was a kid there was something called the Glaser Safety Slug that was basically a bullet shell full of shot that was supposed to prevent over penetration. I think I have seen some frangible bullets more recently used for air Marshalls.

They also had a snub nose .38 ( either a colt detective or S&W 37 ) that was all aluminum so you couldn't really fire regular ammo out of it, but I don't remember if they were just prototypes or actually adopted.

 

[Danke42]