Draw Filing After Heat Treat?

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I'm getting ready to start knifemaking (draw filing) and I've heard that after the heat treat, the steel is too hard to continue draw filing. If I can't continue to use files, how do I finish taking off the excess steel without using some sort of grinder? Thanks in advance for the help.
 
you shouldn't have to grind anymore on the bevels, bring it to a dime thickness, and that should be fine.
 
Once the steel is hardened, you have to switch to using abrasive sheets. Use Wet-or-Dry from the auto shop or hardware store.Take a piece of hard wood (or a piece of steel) and wrap a strip of the sandpaper around it. Use it just like a file. Start with 120 grit and proceed to 400 of as fine as you like (it comes as fine as 8000).Switch to a fresh place on the sheet as it wears down. For a final polish, glue a piece of leather to a block of wood and charge it with Flitz or some other polishing compound and hand polish the blade and edge.

You want to take the blade to 400 grit BEFORE HT if you are doing things by hand. Make sure ALL scratches are out before HT since they will be very hard to remove after the blade is hard.After HT start with 120 grit, even if you went to 400 prior to HT. You have to remove the thin layer of decarb from the blade surface.

A couple of tips on using the sandpaper. Use silicon carbide paper ( the black stuff) ,as regular sandpaper won't do the job.Use it dry up to 400 grit and then use it wet ( not a requirement, but is helps in the finer grits).Alternate directions of sanding between grits by 90 degrees ,to see where the deeper scratches are from the last coarser grit. Don't go to a higher grit until all the scratches are out from the last grit.The final sanding and polishing should be in continuous smooth strokes from the ricasso to the tip.
Take your time and have fun. Many spectacular blades are made with nothing but files and sandpaper.
Stacy
 
Once I started finishing with sanding sheets (when starting out, I would finish on the belt grinder at high grits and buff), I noticed a tremendous increase in the finish quality I could acheive. Like Stacy said, remove all the scratches before heat treat with paper, and it will make your life MUCH easier afterwards. I like to use cheap-o honing oil when I'm sanding. You'll want to use some lubricant/wetting agent to keep the grit from the paper in play. Makes almost a slurry under the paper with the grit that has been taken off the paper and the steel dust removed from the blade. It will cut much longer this way.

--nathan
 
I dont see a mention of what kind of steel is used here but if it is carbon steel there will be a scale to remove and also small pits to take out. I always use PCB to eleminate scale and the pits. You should be able to take it to 400 grit this way. There will still be quite abit of hand sanding but it will be much easier.
 
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