DSSF and SAR 8

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What's your thoughts on these blades? Which one of them do you prefer and why?
The blade shape on both of them is quite similar (apart from the grind of course). The main diference is in the handle. Which handle do you like more? Is there a balance diference on these knives?
I have a DSSF and I love it. I only wish the handle wasn't as straight as it is. I would like it to slop down in the back a little - a bit like in the ergo handle models. It would feel better while chopping. After looking at some pics, I came to a conclusion that a Sar 8 might be my perfect dssf :D
What dou you guys think?
And don't forget that comparsion pics are always welcome !!! :) :thumbup:
 
Well, I have neither but I would be interested in what others have to say. I always need one more Busse! And you sir are doing one heck of a sales job on the DSSF! :thumbup::D
 
The DSSF is much cheaper of a knife no matter how you look at it, but the balance is incredible and so is the edge on the SAR8. So I guess it's how much you got, if you get a chance at a SAR8 and don't mind paying for it, get it. If you are trying to save as much as possible and get the best bang for the dollar, get a DSSF.
 
And you sir are doing one heck of a sales job on the DSSF! :thumbup::D

Because she's worth it and yet pretty underestimated!!! :D

Thanks Liu for the answer!
Could I trouble you for a comparsion pic? :)

C'mon guys I know many of you have both knives - tell us what you think (and post pics ;):))!
 
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I went with the sandstorm dssf and stripped her. I heard that the grip on the g10 sar8 can be rough on the hands. The custom shop sar 8s are beautiful but pricey and eliminate the grip issue that many complain about with the patterned g10. The sar8 has a slightly longer blade if I remember correctly. Great deals on the dssf on the exhange.
 
Really guys? No comparison shots for the rest of us to drool over?

This I can not believe! Come on....BRING IT!!!:D:thumbup:

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I would love to see some pics too. I use my DSF alot and I have nothing bad to say about it. The fact that the blade is slim makes it a unique Busse and the price makes it hard to pass up!
 
if you use the search function there are comparison shots out there. i found them when i was deciding between the two.
 
Ok, I was hoping others would have helped out so I wouldn't have to show any that I had. I don't have a SAR8 LE or SE, just Custom Shop knives. Here are three pictures for comparision. Now keep in mind, one thing to add to the cost of the SAR8 over the DSSF is that the all the blades were Satin and I think some where double cut, while all of the DSSF (unless Custom Shop Ganza or Show Specials) were coated.



 
Really guys? No comparison shots for the rest of us to drool over?

This I can not believe! Come on....BRING IT!!!:D:thumbup:

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there you go Capt Turner!

THe dsf is a great knife and is a lot of infi in a light weight pakage. THe handle does want to disengage from your hand when you are whalin away. Try using a nice thin leather glove:thumbup:

THe sar 8 is one of my foavorite designs cause you guessed it.......it came from Skunk:D Seriously, its a great utiltarian piece with great balance, ergos, and exceptional blade ge-Im a tree:thumbup::cool:
 
The regular SAR8 handle takes a bit of sanding to smooth out the rough edges to be comfortable for chopping imo. I have very calloused hands, but it still poked a bit.

I sold mine because I just didn't like the green/black G10 look much. I finally replaced it with this last week, which I absolutely love:

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G-rexed SAR8 is super comfortable. Not for small hands though, but none of the g-rexed handles are!
 
Thanks guys for the pics and the input!
Liu Kang - perfect comparsion pics - thank you!
I like sar8 more and more...
 
WOW - excellent pics guys!! You REALLY brought it!!:D

And ya - the SAR 8 is HOT!!!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Thanks! (I think - ooooh and I am already sooo on the MRS bad list.....)

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l2lku2 - awesome pics! Thank you!
Please tell us what you think of those blades, which one you prefer and why.
 
I cannot provide an opinion of the DSSF as I have not used it yet.

Handle ergonomics is obviously a very personal and subjective thing but for my hands the SAR series (4, 6 & 8) is by far my favorite i.t.o handle ergonomics in the Busse line (within my limited experience; I have not been at this long and I only have experience with the relatively new models. My collection is posted elsewhere here.).

After the B11, the SAR 8 is my favorite Busse.

My preference for the SAR series handles is based on its combination of comfort, control and versatility. Where some handles are comfortable for one function and not for others, I find the SAR handles are comfortable for any possible use.

They provide a lot of control because I feel that all my fingers have an (almost) equal amount of grip, maybe with a very slight bias to the outer two fingers and especially because of the wide (top to bottom) rear section of the handle.

I can find a comfortable and secure grip anywhere on the handle whether in the middle, completely to the back for chopping or all the way to the front for detail work and there are no protrusions getting in the way or digging into the hand in the chest lever grip (or any other). The pommel is completely rounded so it does not have any of the protrusions that typically start working the hand, palm or rear fingers, when chopping. The pointed pommel on the DSSF will work your palm if you grip it at the rear when chopping.

The versatility comes from the absence of the commonly used palm swell (top to bottom mostly) design like on the TAC series e.g. the BATAC. The palm swell design works well only if the ratio of thick to thin is right for a particular hand.

The TAC handle ratio for example is too pronounced for my hand so my grip is tighter on the middle two fingers and a little loose on the outer two. When more control is required I have to grip much tighter which makes the bulge uncomfortable in my palm and my hand also fatigues faster. Although the DSSF does not have a palm swell on the top, my grip is still tighter on the middle two fingers than the outer two and the handle is also a little too thin (top to bottom). It is not uncomfortable but it does not have the "melt in your hand" feeling of the SAR.

The only other designs that I find as versatile and comfortable are the Chopweiler and the Rodent Solution and you will see they all have a similar concept - smooth curves top and bottom becoming gradually thicker toward the back. They just work for my hands - I am sure others may find exactly the opposite. My ideal chopper would be an 11 inch blade with a SAR or Chopweiler handle.

In addition to their handle comfort, the reason that I really like the SAR 8 (& B11 & Chopweiler) is their performance / weight ratio. They all perform like heavier and bigger knives.

What I don't like about the SAR series is the aggressive jimping. That stuff will tear your fingers up in no time as well as your gloves over time. I get the whole firesteel striking thing but if I am going to carry a firesteel, I am going to carry a striker for it. None of that jimping nonsense on the Chopweiler or the DSSF.

I don't like choils either but if they are on a knife, they have to at least be usable. The choil on the SAR 8 has the Nuclear Meltdown treatment so it is softened / rounded and wide so it is comfortable and usable. SAR series without jimping and choils would be perfect for me.

When I want to chop anything of note, I use an axe anyway but I do chop with large knives for other reasons. We often go into the Shenandoah mountains and a few weeks ago I screwed up and packed a bunch of knives but forgot my axes. I had quite a few knives, one larger than the SAR 8 but I had a lot of firewood to process. It was very cold and I did not have gloves and my hands started hurting eventually. I found myself going back to the SAR 8 because it was the only one that I could still use without making my hands worse.

I really like the DSSF and I am sure it will be a great performer but I doubt it will replace the SAR 8 at the top of my list in that size category.
 
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