due to popluar demand a survival folder poll

1 week, 1 chopper + which folder

  • spydie chinook

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  • mod trident

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  • sak rucksack

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  • leatherman wave

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  • cs voyager tanto

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  • spydie military

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  • benchmade griptilian

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  • crkt M-16

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  • buck 110

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  • chris reeve sebenza lg

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  • Total voters
    0
  • Poll closed .
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one catch you only have 1 chopper of choice and one folder,1 week in the wilderness. moderate climate spring/fall might get some rain or even a snow but not too bad. temps in the hi 30's to 40's at night during the day 50's to 60's maybe lower but not higher.

also only a mini-kit no other gear but the clothes on your back

oh I love these


I am voting for the leatherman wave cause it has scissors and a file and 2 blades.

though I wouldn't feel naked with a sak rucksack.

I think the chinook is a great choice but you can have a chopper of choice.


I would be set with a newt livesay rtak and a wave. get right to fire making and shelter building then off to trap setting and some fishing.
 
Based on the choices, and the limits on other gear, I voted for the Leatherman Wave, mainly for the two blades and the file (for touching up the chopper if the edge is damaged).
The pliers and screwdrivers might come in handy, but in this scenario (without your usual gear), I don't know how much. The saw works, but probably wouldn't see any actual use, since you've got a large FB along.
My real choice is a small fixed blade that would be most closely approximated by the large Sebenza. For touching up the knives, I normally carry one grooved, and one ceramic steel when I go in the woods. Take up very little room, and weigh next to nothing.
Also carry a Leatherman Wave in addition to the two knives, but to be honest, rarely use it. I carry it more for "potential need", than "expected need":)
 
In the 2001 hunting season I field dressed a deer with my ever present leatherman wave. I used the saw to split the pelvic bone and it suffered no obvious damage. However, the main blade felt a little less than adaquate for the job. I had to finish with another knife. Having said that I vote for the 110. Solid as a rock, has never failed me. My chopper would be my cs kukri.

Dean
 
I love my Rucksack, and would hate to be without it, but there is no doubt that a multi-tool is even more versatile. For me I'd take my khuk and my Gerber 800 multi-tool. I don't care for Leathermans all that much, and prefer the Gerber. Especially with the replaceable jigsaw blades. While they're not as long as the saw on an SAK, you can get a lot more versatility by carrying an assortment of jigsaw blades. And while I haven't had much uses for the screwdrivers in a true survival situation (they have been handy for sighting in and genreal gun use, though), the pliers are amazingly handy in the bush. And the file has a lot of uses, especially if you might be having to work bone or wood into tools and weapons. And the khukuri is self evident.
 
The Wave is not my favorite multitool: the inner tools are too hard to open and the lack of an awl is a big minus. Nonetheless, I voted for the Wave, solely on the basis of the pliers and the outer blades (including file and saw). If I had my druthers, I'd take a lot more, but that would go well beyond the subject of this poll.
 
I can't believe I did that. My only exceuse was I did this late last night.

sorry guys but I guess we have to make do with the choices availiable.
 
Yeah, as I've mentioned in other posts, the SERE 2000 is the real deal, a first rate survival folder.
 
Leatherman Wave, out of the choices listed.

Nathan S, try sharpening the smallest screwdriver on your Wave, and you can drill holes in wood and leather until you drop. Works great as an awl. RadioRay showed me this last June on our survival trip in Idaho.

Best,

Brian.
 
With a choice of two I would have to go with the Leatherman Wave as the folder and a Busse Zero Tolerance Battle Mistress as my chopper.

A few comments and some rationale.

Brian,

I find the small screwdriver sharp enough that it could probably be used in an emergency as an awl, with a little help from the tip of the a knife. It is however very handy for the repair of glasses, and having used it for such, I am not sure I would want to grind it into an awl. I would probably use the next size up, if I was going to sacrifice a blade. Further, it would have more room to play around with getting in a hole, which the best awls have, and a scalloped edge (NOT serrated--I mean the curve along the edge like the Victorinox have). I find that leaving off the awl a bad choice, but some might argue that the screwdrivers get more use. HOW could Tim Leatherman, though after spending all that effort on an amazing design, leave off the measurements? :( They managed to stamp on the name.

------------Some optional rationale:
As a pocket knife the Rucksack is probably more manageable, but I would just miss the versatility of my Wave too much. Cutting carpet one time, the Wave worked fine, but I found it a little awkward peeling a fruit. The Pocket Service Tool (I know not a choice)might be a nice alternative, since the blade opens with one hand. Anybody give one of these a real workout in the woods/jungle? Here Victorinox left off the hole in the awl, it is heavier, and the blade design is a little odd. Since it is not symetrical it is harder to cut a straight line, although with some effort it seems to work. Sharp!! though. I am not sure where the weight comes in, maybe the different lock. A plus is that the screwdriver locks, which makes it more useful for scraping out that last bit of coconut flesh. The one handed feature is great. I would love to have a Rucksack with the only change being the addition of that hole, and then a junior version. Since you do not need to put your hand in front of the blade to unlock the Rucksack, a junior version would be just the ticket as a “first” knife. It would be my knife of choice at parties too, opens beer and wine bottles–even a can if necessary. :)

I picked the Busse Zero Tolerance Battle Mistress as it is sturdy and “screaming” sharp. (To quote Jerry.) Since the scenario suggests you don’t have much else I would find it useful, versatile, and reassuring. Since the Wave might not be the best pocket knife I could use it a lot as a knife. The BK&T PATROL MACHETE as mentioned by Will (and pasted in here with his CAPS :D )is great, but I would find it too long for much duty as a knife. I am not used to using a knife of more than 10". Since the ZTBM is 3/16" it won’t be as heavy to carry as a regular Battle Mistress. By the way, the ZTBM rides fine in a High Desert Holster Kydex Busse Basic 9 sheath (or whoever made those sheaths). After getting the ZT set, no money for sheaths ;) but I am not complaining.

The BK&T 7" Combat Utility knife would be another good choice. It is a very versatile setup. My ferrocerium rod is already in the pouch ready to go. Further, the sheath also works great for my ZT Steel Heart. See I told you it was versatile!! I guess I’ll have to return the BK&T 7 to its home and try it on some fatwood experiments this weekend, along with the ZTBM....after all I said I could use it as knife. I better make sure!

I also did not pick the SERE 2000, because it was not a choice. Great knife, and I love that pocket clip!

If you have been carefully paying attention to this ramble, you might wonder, what he did with his ZT Natural Outlaw. It fits fine in my regular combat grade Natural Outlaw sheath that I never used. The ZT version being thinner, is little loose, but the snap fastener holds it in. The Natural Outlaw itself is riding in one of Joe Chen’s great Kydex sheaths along with a clipped on ferrocerium rod.

:eek:
 
My chopper would be a HI YCS Khukuri, It is a great chopping blade, plus it has two karda (smaller blades) and an Awl.
With that I would add the Leatherman. With that combination, I would feel sure of success in all tasks needing a blade of any sort.
 
Rucksack or Wave.... now there is a though choice. I like the wave, but assumming that this is a widerness survival exercise, and I am not relying on a great deal of machinery, the Rucksack can do everything the Wave can do and with less weight.

n2s
 
Tough choice between the Wave and SAK, but given the general nature of the question the Wave is more versitile. Pliers, saw, file, and two locking blades=good odds in such situations.
 
I'll go for the Sebenza! The Strider AR should be in this one also, it is a monster and could probibly do some chopping!!:)
 
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