duratech 20cv

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I've read a bit about 20cv, and it's labeled as a "stainless tool steel." i've heard the terms tool steel and stainless steel thrown around, but i don't really know much about "stainless tool steels" how does 20cv compare to a "almost stainless" tool steel like D2 in terms of corrosion resistance. also i've heard 20cv is powdered. are latrobe's powdering methods comparable to crucible's? could 20cv ever be a replacement for s30v? i've heard of some problems with crucible financially (but i thought i also heard they were bought out?), so that's why i'm asking the last question.
 
DuraTech 20CV vc. D2 steel composition comparison. 20CV is much higher alloyed steel and more stain resistant too.
I figure it'll be more wear resistant as well, based on V content. Latrobe at least specifically states those properties.

Crucible was "almost" bought out last time I've heard about them and they were planing tt rehire folks...
 
I've read a bit about 20cv, and it's labeled as a "stainless tool steel." i've heard the terms tool steel and stainless steel thrown around, but i don't really know much about "stainless tool steels" how does 20cv compare to a "almost stainless" tool steel like D2 in terms of corrosion resistance. also i've heard 20cv is powdered. are latrobe's powdering methods comparable to crucible's? could 20cv ever be a replacement for s30v? i've heard of some problems with crucible financially (but i thought i also heard they were bought out?), so that's why i'm asking the last question.

With a chromium content of 20%, I'd guess that 20CV would be significantly more corrosion resistant than D2. Latrobe Steel apparently agrees and rates the corrosion resistance as superior to that of 440C.

http://www.latrobesteel.com/assets/documents/datasheets/DuraTech_20CV.pdf
 
I've read a bit about 20cv, and it's labeled as a "stainless tool steel." i've heard the terms tool steel and stainless steel thrown around, but i don't really know much about "stainless tool steels" how does 20cv compare to a "almost stainless" tool steel like D2 in terms of corrosion resistance. also i've heard 20cv is powdered. are latrobe's powdering methods comparable to crucible's? could 20cv ever be a replacement for s30v? i've heard of some problems with crucible financially (but i thought i also heard they were bought out?), so that's why i'm asking the last question.

Most people are not very precise when describing steel, this is something you will probably continue to experience. And manufacturers blur lines, and describe their products to sell their products.

Really, the terms are pretty simple.

'Carbon' Steels are those that are not highly alloyed. When 'High' is added to the name, it means that there is .6% carbon or higher.

'Tool' Steels are those steels that are alloyed. In other words, for certain 'tool' applications, they would alloy, or add other elements to steel to produce a desired quality. A common example is Molybdenum, which is added to improve strength at higher temperatures (important when something will see a great deal of friction - which is why it as a strategic resource during WWII and why the Axis started using Nitrogen), Molybdenum also improves corrosion resistance, and it can have a gettering effect to keep chromium carbides from forming.

'Stainless' Steels are those that have 13% Chromium or higher. So, by definition, since Chromium is an alloy, that has been added for a certain quality, Stainless is Tool steel, too.

But, in the case of calling something a "Stainless Tool Steel" I imagine that they are trying to accentuate the fact that it is highly alloyed for certain performance reasons.

And, I am hoping that Spyderco will be able to buy some from Latrobe, because I would love to see that steel included in the Mule Team program.

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In the mean time it's European version Bohler M390PM will be coming out on the Kershaw Volt, due out sometime in the near future. It's a Ti Framelock just under 4 inches blade length.

I have the Duratech steel in a SOG knife and like it. It's RC60, yet tough enough for use in a relatively hard use fixed blade. Not really a chopper by design though.

I only know of it's use in 3 folders. The XM 18, a Lightfoot custom, and Microtech did a sprint run in the Socom Elite a few years back, IIRC.

I'm glad to see it around, and am looking forward to Kershaws excellent "Volt" in the Powdered Bohler Stainless tool steel M390PM.
 
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