Dynamic Woods, Well Made Knives, and Excellent Friends Make For Great Times!(pic hvy)

Mistwalker

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The season is quickly moving into summer, so I thought I post the last pictures from spring 2013. A few of these are pics taken earlier in the spring, used here for context. My work schedule lately doesn't really allow for a lot of personal time but a little each day still none the less. So, some shots were taken while testing a new knife I had been waiting on for three decades, some were taken as plants develop through different stages, and some plants I am still trying to identify. Then there were some taken while woods and field wandering with my friend and some-times assistant, as he gets familiar with an area I like to work in, and played around with damp conditions fire.


The insect population has grown quite a bit since early spring






































The poison ivy has already flowered, and is in full production of toxic berries.















The Solomon's Seal has also borne its fruit











The garlic has gone from tall plain green stalks, to scapes, and on to flowers, and the bulbs have grown to a decent size for wild garlic in uncultivated soil. Small spiders like hiding in the flower tops.
















The onions have scaped, flowered, and gone to seed.










Still working on identifying this one.





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The knife I had been waiting on for three decades is likely an impractical one by many people's standards, and a scary one by many sheeple's standards, but were I to be left alone in deep southern woods I would be very happy having it so far. It is an MCE2 made by Newt Martin of Martin Knives. It is a knife inspired by those that Jimmy Lile made for the Rambo movies, similar in many ways but different in several as well. That story had a big impact on my life at a critical time, and I spent a good bit of money on cheap reproductions back in the day. All of the reproductions failed at the slightest hint of hard use, and I could never have afforded an original Lile so I had sort of given up on getting a decent one, but had never stopped wanting one. A while back I got to check out the Boker Apparo which is a production version of one of Newt's knives after hearing many good things from friends about the high quality of Martin knives. The Apparo impressed me and made me rethink the idea of hollow handled knives again. Then I got to test the prototype of his new Caiman model, and became convinced of the quality construction of Newt's hollow handled knives. I really started looking at Martin Knives as a whole and saw that both he and his father Ed made several designs that I like a lot, and I picked up a couple of Ed's knives. One old school design with soldered brass guard made of O-1 tool steel, and one newer style made of CPM S35VN (a steel that has been of particular interest to me over the last couple of years). Then at the Blade Show I got to handle one of Newt's MCE2 models and fell in love with it.






These are three of the 5 CPM S35VN knives of different sizes and styles that I have been experimenting with over the last little while made by four different makers, and I have another on the way. So far I have been really impressed with the toughness, edge retention, and corrosion resistance of this steel. I like it very much in my high humidity neck of the country and in the corrosive salt and brackish water of the coastal plains.

Of these three the largest is the MCE2 made by Newt, the middle sized knife is a Runt made by Ed Martin, and the small neck knife is a Parker model made by Chris Liv, a fellow member here on Blade forums. Of the three I have had the little Chris Liv Parker for the longest time. It has lived the last several months hanging around my neck being sweated on during work and hikes, and in showers and out in the rain. It has participated in plant studies, and has been used to cut quite a bit of cordage and opened a lot of packages and envelopes. It still looks like new, and still retains a very good working edge. The slightest hints of rust have appeared at times but easily wiped away with just fingers and thumb. The Ed Martin Runt I've had for the last few months and it has been carried a lot in my pocket and on my belt. It has seen a good bit of time out in our rainy weather here and has been used quite a bit in plant studies and relocation projects, making quick work of whittling field expedient digging sticks. It has been the go to knife for demonstrations that involved younger students due to the size not being a distraction that inhibits learning. Both of these knives have filled their intended roles perfectly and I couldn't be happier with them.









Having been disappointed with several hollow handled knives of this style, the first order of business was to see if the thinner steel, longer blade, and finer point of the MCE2 would hold up to hard use as well as the other two. The fine point was for me the perceived weakest link of the blade from previous experiences with Newt's knives, so the first to be tested. The first test was to dig around in an old oak log I found and see how it handled looking for fishing bait. I dug into the log prying out chunks of the spalted wood and on into the more solid part, past where any larvae would have been, and experienced no failure of the tip so far.
















The next task was to see how the long blade and full flat grind would handle some serious chopping in some hard seasoned dogwood. The knife came extremely sharp, and bites deep. Even though chopping in a very inefficient manor to maximize the number of impacts to the blade the knife had no issues at all, it bit deep, threw large chunks, and there were no sounds or feelings that gave away the fact that the knife has a joined handle. It felt just as solid as cutting with a full tang and there is no signs of loosening.












It makes quick work of green saplings






The sharpened clip makes it easy to use the full length of the blade for more reach to cut green briers in one clean cut.






The notching saw works very well, and I think it will do very well in some bamboo experiments later on. Through several penetration tests the tip has done well, and in handle twists splitting bamboo there have been no issues at all so far. Three decades is a long wait, but well worth the wait as far as I have seen yet.











My friend has been wanting to really give the Martin MK-22 a go since I got it months back. He has cut and whittled with it before, but wanted to give it a good work out. He decided to make wet conditions fire to drive off some of the freshly hatching mosquitoes, via a route that would be hard on the knife just to test it out.






































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I think his grin gives away how much he likes the knife.




























There was a moment of sadness on the way out, we found what was only the second timber rattler I have seen here in the last six years freshly run over in the middle of the road. It was right at three feet long and had five buttons But all in all it was a great weekend. I hope to get to do it again soon.





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Yep, there were many a cheap 'Rambo' repos over the past 20somethingish years...most were fit for nothing other than hanging on the wall if that's your thing.

Those that can put together a 'serious use' hollow handle knife are few and far between. Lile of course (if you got the deep pockets), CRK (arguably the strongest design), Randall, and a limited few others. I've also heard generally positive things about the Buckmater 184, though you had to be careful with the tip and saw to a degree (but not much in the way of joint failure). If you 'must have' a Rambo style knife that actually works, that Martin looks like a good choice...and you're a braver man than I for putting it through the paces you did...I wouldn't have pushed it that hard in the prying dept., just cuz I'm poor and couldn't afford to replace it if it broke. How is the handle/blade joined? Weld or threaded tang and bolt?

Of all of 'em that MK-22 looks like probably the most practical overall...nicely done.

Too bad about the snake...if alive, I respect 'em enough to keep my distance, but that one definitely a great pattern. Although it looks like it would literally 'disappear' in leaves and similar materials.

Great review and photos, thanks for sharing.

BOSS
 
amazing pictures, especially the insects macro. Great knife, i am checking their website right now. thanks for sharing
 
As always, awesome pics Mist! They still don't get much love but I will alway be a fan of well made "Rambo knives" (not cheap import stuff) I was lucky enough to own a Lile Sly II for a few years before having to sell it. But man that knife was amazing. The Martin looks like an excellent take on it, right down to the split saw teeth that actually cut!
 
Thanks for the great pix, Mist. There's a shortage of greenery where I'm hanging out, and it's very relaxing to see.
 
That MCE2 looks like a ton of fun. It must've felt awesome to finally own and use one!
Great pics and writing, as always.
 
Great photos!

Thank you!


Yep, there were many a cheap 'Rambo' repos over the past 20somethingish years...most were fit for nothing other than hanging on the wall if that's your thing.

Those that can put together a 'serious use' hollow handle knife are few and far between. Lile of course (if you got the deep pockets), CRK (arguably the strongest design), Randall, and a limited few others. I've also heard generally positive things about the Buckmater 184, though you had to be careful with the tip and saw to a degree (but not much in the way of joint failure). If you 'must have' a Rambo style knife that actually works, that Martin looks like a good choice...and you're a braver man than I for putting it through the paces you did...I wouldn't have pushed it that hard in the prying dept., just cuz I'm poor and couldn't afford to replace it if it broke. How is the handle/blade joined? Weld or threaded tang and bolt?

Of all of 'em that MK-22 looks like probably the most practical overall...nicely done.

Too bad about the snake...if alive, I respect 'em enough to keep my distance, but that one definitely a great pattern. Although it looks like it would literally 'disappear' in leaves and similar materials.

Great review and photos, thanks for sharing.

BOSS

Thank you,

A lot of cheap ones made then, and ones just as bad still being imported today.

It's not something I will carry much, in all honesty, it's a big bigger than my tastes in knives runs these days. But I never stopped wanting it, and I'm glad I have it. As for the testing, I took it slow to start with, and stepped up incrementally over time. It was nice being able to use it the way I expected to be able to use the others back in the day, and having it not fail in the process.

The MK-22 is a great knife and more what I carry these days. I like the old school soldered brass guard, maybe I'm just old fashioned, and I just love the blade geometry and grinds. It has a perfect neutral balance, the ergonomics are exceptional, and it handles very well.

It was sad about the snake. There haven't been many to see lately. Two years ago I saw a bigger one as it crossed the dirt road I was walking just ahead of me, but it didn't stick around long enough for any really good photos of it.


amazing pictures, especially the insects macro. Great knife, i am checking their website right now. thanks for sharing

Thank you. The Martins make some great knives. I am really glad friends here turned me on to them.


As always, awesome pics Mist! They still don't get much love but I will alway be a fan of well made "Rambo knives" (not cheap import stuff) I was lucky enough to own a Lile Sly II for a few years before having to sell it. But man that knife was amazing. The Martin looks like an excellent take on it, right down to the split saw teeth that actually cut!

Thanks bro, glad you enjoyed them. Yep, all the cheap ones ruined the concept for a lot of people. It's nice using one as it was meant to be used. The saw does work well. I like how the one tooth cleans up the middle of the cut.







Thanks for the great pix, Mist. There's a shortage of greenery where I'm hanging out, and it's very relaxing to see.

Thanks man, yeah definitely no shortage of greenery or insects here this time of year to be sure!



That MCE2 looks like a ton of fun. It must've felt awesome to finally own and use one!
Great pics and writing, as always.

Thanks man, glad you liked them, and yes was awesome to finally use one!
 
nice pics! that middle knife, the runt, reminds me of bear grylls' knife especially with the angle in the first pic - the super expensive one, not the gerber.

is that poplar? i see that kind of wood here quite frequently but i have no idea what it is so far.

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nice pics! that middle knife, the runt, reminds me of bear grylls' knife especially with the angle in the first pic - the super expensive one, not the gerber.

is that poplar? i see that kind of wood here quite frequently but i have no idea what it is so far.

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It is similar to the S4, but not as big...and luckily neither is the price or the wait :)

I thought is was birch or maybe maple but really not sure...
 
The baton may have been poplar but the piece I was whamming was maple .... I think . Good pics as usual Mist and thanks for letting me tag along . Lets do it again soon !
 
The baton may have been poplar but the piece I was whamming was maple .... I think . Good pics as usual Mist and thanks for letting me tag along . Lets do it again soon !

It was fun, we do need to do it again soon!



Mist, that is a remarkable shot. Thanks as always for the insightful posts. :thumbup:

Thanks man, glad you liked the post! Yes, we do have a healthy bee population here, a little patience can net some cool shots :)


Thanks for another way cool post and pictures Mist.

Thanks Hawkeye, glad you liked the thread man.
 
Fantastic pics, incredible blade and a great narrative.
Thanks for sharing.
 
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