E-book readers

kgd

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Something completely different, but I thought I'd cast a line out to my fellow knife enthusiasts.

I've been in the throws of research trying to get my wife an e-reader for her birthday. First, some info on my wife. She is a massive book consumer. She is seriously involved in a local book club which consists of two authors, a history teacher and herself (holding an MA in communication studies)....They analyze a book to freak'n death and I wonder how the hell they get any pleasure out of it. The book club meets once a month and I have to be on my best behavior when we host it at our house (knives moved from living room to garage, KGD is required to wear pants in his own house - all that kind of stuff). My wife is a fast reader. She routinely goes on a crazy trying to find the book the day before the club meets and then she reads it in a big 3-h read fest. I'm not allowed to ask her any questions or say anything at this time, but since I also don't have to wear pants and I can sharpen my steel I'm pretty happy with it all.

Anyhow, for her B-day I went with an e-reader. However, I got it all screwed up and here is the research/morality tale for all you husbands out there thinking the best of things. See, the male brain operates differently from the female brain. I like me some books too, but I'm also a distractable fellow. Instead of reading a book in 3 h, I usually read it in 3 week intervals like when I'm sitting on the john or waiting in the clinic or trying to contradict somebody on the forums with some tidbit that will make me sound all intellectual. Anyhow, I gravitated towards this monstrosity - the Pan Novel which purports to do everything (and badly) from MP3 files to books to e-mail access. It is a poor man's IPAD and until I get a Rick Marchand knife for my B-day, I'm holding out on the IPAD for her ('Kay?).

Well, she liked the e-book thing, but the PAN was right out of Pan's Labyrinth. It works, but you have to be an e-geek and install apps and do-hicky's and the battery don't last long. Well, it just sucked all in living colour. This is a good little toy if you can't afford an IPAD and want an IPAD so you bought this thing to pretend its and IPAD but in the end its a piece of crap e-reader.

After trying to figure that thing out and my wife saying, 'honey you had good intentions, but this gift sucks ass'...I figured there was a need for some re-think on the subject. So, I went to Kobo. Kobo is the exact extreme. Its an e-reader that has hardly any do-hickies, it just reads books. The e-ink technology is such that the reader does not draw any power when showing script, it only uses power when changes pages. So the battery life is measured in page changes (30,000 page changes) rather than time. It comes with 100 free books pre-loaded and links to Chapters (one of the big retailers here in Canada). There is a wireless aspect to it (which is not worth the cost because navigating with this thing is not its forte). But the e-ink technology is wonderful, reads great, flips pages fast enough and it was cheap. The software installed on our vista-computers very easily and setting up an account to download a book is a breeze. My wife had her next book-club book uploaded in no time at all.

There are some technology gizmo's to it, like she can get books with her blackberry and send them to her e-reader, but that is something that will never happen. Likewise, after having entered in the WEP wireless code into the little bugger, its painfully obvious that you aren't going to navigate the shopping experience with this interface that ain't designed to do so. Best to do all the book buying on the computer and either send it to the e-reader or an SD-card.

Anyhow, just relating my experiences. Sometimes you might want an MP-3 player, MP-4 player, e-reader, PDA all wrapped up into one crappy package. Sometimes its just best to get an e-reader when what you really want to buy is an e-reader. Returning the crap-tastic PAN for a kobo was just what the wife wanted and she is super happy with this dedicated little gadget. I'm even looking forward to borrowing it from her on my next business trip. In fact, two Kobo's is probably in our future.

Anybody else starting the switch-over from print books to e-books? Perhaps you are all doing this and I'm just slow. However, those little e-readers are much more of a joy than trying to snuggle with than a laptop.
 
I got a Kobo and I love it.

It does what I want it to do...read books. I didn't want anything fancy, had no need for wireless or anything. All I wanted to do was read digital books.

IMO the Kobo is fantastic.
 
I have been thinking about an e-book purchase for awhile now. However, the only thing stopping me is how much I enjoy paper books. I like going into book stores and searching through the isles and searching through stacks and stacks of books. If I were to purchase an e-book than it would pretty much put an end to my bookstore wandering.

I love electronic gadgets, but I also love paper books, and having several shelves pull of books around my house. :)
 
I have been thinking about an e-book purchase for awhile now. However, the only thing stopping me is how much I enjoy paper books. I like going into book stores and searching through the isles and searching through stacks and stacks of books. If I were to purchase an e-book than it would pretty much put an end to my bookstore wandering.

I love electronic gadgets, but I also love paper books, and having several shelves pull of books around my house. :)

I totally hear you. There is a certain pleasure of going through a used book store and finding a little gem of a book for $4 and I'm pretty sure an e-reader isn't going to replace that kind of experience.

In my wife's case, her club agrees to a book, which while not always on the best-seller list is often something relatively new or up-and-coming. If the book is only available in hardcover, that usually means about $30-$35 to purchase it. My wife can almost always get the e-book for about $8. So after about a year, this little gadget will purchase itself.

I'm most intrigued by this as a travel companion. I can load up 3 books for my next business trip and tote them around with me in a thin package of less then 1/3 the size of a single paperback. But, thus far my wife won't let me read with it in the bathtub (a secret fetish) and it will feel a bit weird reading one under headlamp in during a winter tenting experience.
 
E-readers are a great idea from my point of view. I got a Kindle 3 and I have hundreds of books on it already, most free or a dollar or two. It also has easy-to-use WiFi and free 3G, and a browser that lets me research the internet. The screen is so good, I can read without my glasses.
 
I love my Kindle 3. It is basically a pure e-reader with free internet on it for emergency use. Lately I have been thinking of picking up a smartphone or tablet. I am checking out the new Galaxy tab that is set to come out shortly but want to make sure it acts like a phone (using a earpiece). Basically I just wanted unlimited internet access and games and figured this way I could throw my old phone out, and leave my laptop and Kindle at home. But, I was checking out the Nook (which is on the Galaxy tab) and it is night and day as far as reading goes. I don't like the backlit screen or the reflective quality.

I am still waiting for someone to come up with a better all encompassing option. It is getting closer and closer, but we are still not there yet.
 
never heard of KOBO -- I got my wife a NOOK for our anniversary and she loves it.
her dad has a kindle and he loves that.
 
I love the 50 cent book find at Goodwill as much as the next guy, but I'm also a big fan of the new tech (kindle) e-readers. As fast as local video rental stores are folding up, we're learning that there's nothing we can do about the new technology other than embrace it. The days of scoring a few really cool paperbacks at the local thrift store is sadly coming to an end. Deal with it. Ride the Metro up in DC. Everybody on that crazy train has a smartphone jammed into their face. Nobody even LOOKS anyone in the eyes anymore.

Now... To the topic at hand.. The Kindle is a one trick pony. It's an e'reader and a durn good one. It does ONE thing and it does it WELL. E-ink rules. However, as an iPhone owner, I find myself using the Kindle app more and more. The Kindle (believe it or not) is "bulky" in comparison. No, I don't read thousands of pages on the iPhone, but it gets me by. It's not enough of a presence for me to consider selling my Kindle. The Kindle is great for the johnnyhouse. :D

Embrace the new technology. The day of the paperback is numbered, especially for less popular authors. Stephen King will always be marketable in this medium. But up and comers and gonna get e-ink deals. That's just the way it is. Publishing houses are finally getting their way. They HATE the 50 cent garage sale paperback and now they're gonna be able to do something about it. :mad:
 
E-readers are a great idea from my point of view. I got a Kindle 3 and I have hundreds of books on it already, most free or a dollar or two. It also has easy-to-use WiFi and free 3G, and a browser that lets me research the internet. The screen is so good, I can read without my glasses.

Great to hear about the Kindle also! Thanks Esav and I forgot to mention that scalable fonts has remarkable utility for ageing eyes. I think the sony and Kindle (made by sony also? --don't know) also have voice read features which is great for folks with sight impairments.

Nobody even LOOKS anyone in the eyes anymore.

Never been very good at looking the ladies in the eyes, but Harry I'm glad to know that I can use technology as an excuse now!

However, as an iPhone owner, I find myself using the Kindle app more and more. The Kindle (believe it or not) is "bulky" in comparison. No, I don't read thousands of pages on the iPhone, but it gets me by. It's not enough of a presence for me to consider selling my Kindle. The Kindle is great for the johnnyhouse. :D

Yep, great post on other technologies. I still don't have a cell phone. Avoid it like the plague and want to see if I can survive the next 30 years without. We'll see, but its the old curmudgeon in me. Just hate the fact that others expect me to be available on demand but also see its conveniences. So in many respects those one trick pony's have lots of appeal to me. I also have a really, really cheap MP3 player. One of the non-ipod thingies that just hook to your computer, downloads the songs you select and you play it in shuffle mode. Thats it. Kind of like my 4" bushcraft blade. Just a fixed blade, no do-hickies...Just a knife and a sharp edge.
 
The only way you can take my Kindle is from my cold dead hands!

Seriously it is great, I can think of a title or author and have it in front of me in less than two minutes & I live deep in the woods with bad cell reception. When they come out in color with backlighting for night reading I will get another.

Tom
 
I was going to get the Kindle, but said the heck with it and got an iPad. Love it. I've read about 120 books on it so far plus it has all the other bells and whistles also. I tend to read a lot of photography related books and they don't work so well on a regular kindle. I rarely have an issue with screen reflections and I like that I can change the display to white text on black and read in bed without a light on in the room.
 
I got a Kobo and I love it.

It does what I want it to do...read books. I didn't want anything fancy, had no need for wireless or anything. All I wanted to do was read digital books.

IMO the Kobo is fantastic.

Isn't the wireless there for you to download the books?
 
Isn't the wireless there for you to download the books?

The first kobo was not wireless and you hooked it to your computer with a USB port or store the book in an SD-card and insert it into the reader. The second is wireless and can access your home network or you connect with it directly at hotspots to download the books.

We bought the wireless one. It retains the hard connection functionality as the original one. I hooked it up to our home internet. Honestly, its just easier to put the book on an SD card or hook and synch with a USB cable. The wireless isn't bad, but navigating the book buying process using the interface on the reader is. Point is, in a jam you can do it. Like you are in Japan and ran out of reading materials, so you go to the internet cafe and download a new book to last you the night. Perhaps a good thing in your back pocket, but you have to be a lot more 'into' the features thing than most people are to really exploit it.
 
The iPad is really nice. I like paper, but the options with the iPad seem extra nice. My only negative comment is that the iPad is a little heavy to hold though not in terms of transporting an entire library.
 
My wife and I are BIG Kindle fans, but we still make the used bookstore rounds about once a month. Old habits are hard to break! I also am surprised at how much I use the Kindle app on my phone. It will sync to your last page read and gives you all the text size adjustments, etc. It's great for killing time and having quick and portable access to your archived books.

Jeff
 
I've been using a Sony 505 for the past almost two years. I read at least 2-3 hours every day and love the convenience. I usually read 3-4 different types of books at the same time; i.e. a mystery, a science book, philosophy, etc., and I hated having to carry several books with me. This was especially true when traveling for a week or two. The reader fits into a pocket of my shoulder bag so it's almost always with me when I leave the house. For the once or twice a month occurrence that I don't have my reader, I will read on my iPhone. It's not as comfortable, but it works.

Once I got my e-reader, I could carry my entire library in one thin device. It will bookmark my reading so when I open a book it's right on the spot where I left off. No mucking about trying to find my place. Right now I have 285 books inside my reader, but there is room for more than 3,000. (I wonder if that would make it heavier? :p ) I have several thousand books downloaded to my computer, just waiting to be read. Besides all the free book locations, there are public libraries that lend out the newest titles, so we don't give up any reading pleasures.

Stitchawl
 
I have commented before on other threads, but I believe the Kindle (and other e-readers) are one of the greatest inventions of the 21st Century.

The ability to access and carry a large slice of the worlds knowledge and literature in a jacket pocket sized device is a gift beyond price.

When they start to hand out Nobel Prizes to people who actually deserve them, then the inventors and distributors of Kindles etc. will be right up there.

Like others above, I love paper books and have always loved browsing through second hand book shops for bargains, but I see the future as browsing online, and reading on e-readers. Pictures and colour will be the next development, but I don't see this technology available to the masses (under $200) in the near future.
 
I too love paper books, and have a wall full of them at home. However, I love the convenience of ebooks.

I've been an ebook reader for years, but never bought a dedicated ebook reader. I used to read books on a PDA using an app called Mobipocket, and now I read on my iPhone using an app called Stanza (which IMO is way better than the Amazon Kindle app). I have the iPhone with my 24/7, so I can read anytime I want (waiting in line at the supermarket, eating lunch, sitting in the doctor's office, etc.) without needing to carry around another piece of tech.

If I did want a dedicated reader, I would probably go with the Kindle. My sister has one and its easy to read and easy to use. The only disadvantage is that its bigger than my iPhone.
 
I have a Kindle 3 and love it. As some have stated above, it does only one thing, but it does it really well.
 
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