E.C. Simmons Keen Kutter dogleg jack

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Kitten Party

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Check out this sucker! It has the BEST walk and talk of ANY knife I have ever handled and locks up like a bank vault! Amazing for a knife of this age. Speaking of age, my limited understanding of KK is that with the EC Simmons tang stamp puts it pre 1940. Is this correct? Also, whats up with the material between the springs and the liners? It seems to have partially deteriorated...

Too bad the user didn't know how to sharpen a knife...besides the material loss on the blades this thing is in amazing shape!

Enjoy the pics folks!






 
>whats up with the material between the springs and the liners?

That is called dirt and debris from being an old knife.

EC Simmons sold to Shapleigh in 1940. That knife was most likely made by New York Knife Company who went out of business in 1931.

Nice knife if you didn't pay too much for it.
 
Markesharp said:
>whats up with the material between the springs and the liners?

That is called dirt and debris from being an old knife.

EC Simmons sold to Shapleigh in 1940. That knife was most likely made by New York Knife Company who went out of business in 1931.

Nice knife if you didn't pay too much for it.
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I paid very little for it...I think it will stay on my collection for awhile, very pleased with it!
 
Kitten Party said:
It has the BEST walk and talk of ANY knife I have ever handled and locks up like a bank vault! Amazing for a knife of this age.
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Amazing it is, but, not unusual at all for these old knives to still walk, talk, and lock up tight. IMO, modern manufacturers and even many custom makers have a difficult time producing knives with as good quality of a hundred years ago - not the other way around. ;):)
 
Here is a similar time-frame EC Simmons KK stockman. Except for the obvious chip out of the clip main, the knife functions flawlessly with crisp snap and great W&T. Wonderful old knives.

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That looks like the K2726 3/4 pattern. If it measures 3 3/4 inches closed, that's what it is. According to Keen Kutter Pocket Knives by Alvin Sellens, that pattern was produced from 1921 to 1929.

If it is the K2726 3/4, it was probably made by either:

1. Walden Knife Company, Walden, NY (which E.C. Simmons owned since 1902)

or

2. Winchester, New Haven, CT (In 1922, Winchester bought E.C. Simmons [to include Walden Knife Co] and moved Walden's equipment to New Haven. Some, if not many, of Walden's cutlers made the move and joined cutlers from Napanoch Knife Company which Winchester had previously bought)

Winchester-Simmons separated after 1929.


Congratulations on your find! :thumbup:
 
MerryMadMonk said:
That looks like the K2726 3/4 pattern. If it measures 3 3/4 inches closed, that's what it is. According to Keen Kutter Pocket Knives by Alvin Sellens, that pattern was produced from 1921 to 1929.

If it is the K2726 3/4, it was probably made by either:

1. Walden Knife Company, Walden, NY (which E.C. Simmons owned since 1902)

or

2. Winchester, New Haven, CT (In 1922, Winchester bought E.C. Simmons [to include Walden Knife Co] and moved Walden's equipment to New Haven. Some, if not many, of Walden's cutlers made the move and joined cutlers from Napanoch Knife Company which Winchester had previously bought)

Winchester-Simmons separated after 1929.


Congratulations on your find! :thumbup:
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Thanks for the info! Sure enough on the back of the main blade, 2726 3/4.
 
The master blade in your knife is so short that the spine likely has been ground down to help re-establish the tip. Might not be the original swage on the blade.
It is better to spend a little more $ and get old knives with full or very nearly full, blades.
kj
 
kootenay joe said:
The master blade in your knife is so short that the spine likely has been ground down to help re-establish the tip. Might not be the original swage on the blade.
It is better to spend a little more $ and get old knives with full or very nearly full, blades.
kj
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I paid almost nothing for it. I have been "testing the waters" so to speak. I may invest in a better quality KK in the future
 
I have many knives as well used, or used up, as the OP's knife. I see them as useful references when assessing another knife of the same pattern by the same manufacturer. You know the old beater is almost certainly all original and it helps to decide if the 'unused/lightly used' knife has been altered; i.e. not all original.
kj
 
I would clean her up with some 2000 wet dry, metal finish pad, and a brass brush. looks like a great knife to edc.
 
looks like a nice old user for sure.
i'm fascinated by the signs of use, worn blades, broken missing or cracked and chipped scales. grime, rust and worn out blades especially those sharpened almost to the spine.
these old workhorses gave good service and have a story hidden in their decrepitude.
thanks for posting

buzz
 
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