Ebay feedback?

Codger_64

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I won an eBay auction a while back and as I always do, sent the M.O via priority mail to speed the transaction. This was September 2nd, the day the auction ended. The seller marked the auction paid on the 11th (10 days to recieve a priority mailer in the continental U.S.??), eventually sent me the knife via parcel post (a pocketknife I paid priority shipping rate for, $4.95), and the day I recieved it a week later, I left positive feedback for them as I also always do. That was back on the 19th (nine to get the knife to me after recieving a negotiable payment?), and yesterday on the 29th, I sent the following message:


Hi!
I recieved the knife and left you positive feedback over a week ago. Please leave mine so I can conclude this transaction in my records.
Thanks,

The seller's response?

i will be leaving positive feedback when i leave my bulk feedback next week some time. thanks.

Bulk feedback? Two weeks after I left the seller feedback? Well, it isn't a big deal, but the seller has less than 400 transactions, so how huge can that bulk feedback be? And isn't that like a mass mailed thankyou note from a furniture store?

I do keep the auctions current until completed, though I have given up on a few and deleted them without ever recieving feedback. It isn't a big issue, but I am curious how prevalent this is. Isn't a month a bit long for completing a simple transaction where I spent half the cost of the item to speed the payment to them? Anyone else have this experience?

Codger
 
Codger,
I've had the same thing happen to me on several occassions. I show 68 feedbacks but I've actually had about 75 transactions. I've also bought some items from the same buyer at different times, and got the same feedback, verbatum, back. No big deal for me, as long as it's positive:).

Eric
 
Codger,

You're absolutely right in everything you say, and I struggled with the same thoughts for some time. Eventually I decided life is too short to worry about it. It happens with some of the lower class sellers. You did all the right things, and you got your knife, just move on. It's really not worth using up any emotional bandwidth doing the book-keeping, if you see what I mean. At least that's the philosophy I adopted.

Dave
 
Codger I never leave feedback until the seller does and it does sometimes take awhile,Idon't sweat it though.........

Kap

but I know what you mean as I too don't buy very often off ebay and want that positive feedback cause I always pay right away.But its just the way some sellers are!
 
It does happen a bit. Just double checking my own history, I have 205 feedbacks that I have left for people, but only received 198. Plus, I would say that there have been about another dozen or so that I never left feedback for because it was never left for me.
 
As an eBay seller,I leave feedback for the buyer when he/she completes their end of the deal - namely sending payment promptly.I got blindsided with my first negative several months ago by a buyer who said the item was a reprint,even though the ad stated that it was.His private e-mail to me said that he posted the negative "because no seller should have all positives".

As a buyer,I expect to receive feedback when the seller gets paid promptly.If the seller doesn't post feedback for me,I don't post for them.
Unfortunately,with today's eBay situation,many sellers won't post feedback for the buyer until the buyer posts positive feedback for the seller. The reason is that the seller can always retaliate with negative feedback in case there was a problem with item/transaction or the buyer is unreasonable.
If you want to meet some real a--holes,try buying or selling computer-related items.A lot of the buyers/sellers are of the younger generation,of which a significant portion have no manners/ethics/etc.
As a buyer/seller,you will find that over 50 % of the time,the other party won't post feedback.
Ron
 
I am not a seller, though I have been tempted. I've only been ripped off once in all the time I've been using eBay, and the same seller popped a dozen people at the same time on power tools. He used aliases, drop boxes. The complaints and contacts with Miami PD never came to anything. All in all, I like dealing with eBay, and I've had as many bad experiences with flea markets, yard sales, and brick and mortar stores, so I guess I can't complain. I was just wondering if "mass feedback" was a common thing. It took the seller as long to reply to my request as it would have to type out a simple positive feedback.

Codger
 
I often wait untill I've got a bunch of feedbacks to make, and do them all at once, 5 or 10. And usually don't leave any if I'm a little disgruntled. I avoid being negative if possible! But I got stung by an out and out liar with counterfeit knives, and went after Ebay, and got most of my money back. It's actually entertaining to read his stupid feedback, and the negatives I left him!
Mine is under frnorth, and you'll find the cheat because his are my only negatives.
I've learned to avoid non-Paypal users if possible, because you get better protection with it. Paypal(Ebay) doesn't mind so much taking money back from a credit card, but it's very hard to get them to cover a non credit-card transaction.
Blurry or bad pics is another scam procedure.
It helps everyone if you blast the A**holes! Plan your words and give 'em H*ll!
 
I was pleasantly surprised at what an honest, square-deal, good natured bunch of people knife traders were a year or two ago when I started collecting. I have since run into a couple of not so honest sellers - and they were all women! I am alittle more selective now who I buy from, but on the whole, people who sell knives are better at the process than most other vendors... I have not sold alot of knives, but I am sure I will in the not too distant future (starting to annoy my wife with the stacks of heavy knife filled cigar boxes in the closet.) When I do start selling off parts of my collection, I am going to leave feedback the way I leave feedback for sellers now - immediately and honestly.
 
I didn't mean to emphasize the negative, Kevin! As you can see from my record, I too have lots of pleasant transactions. Most knife people are definitely a cut above!! (pun intended!)
 
Feedback, like all cyber communication, can at times leave you wondering why... or asking the mental, "huh?" As a seller I wait for buyer feedback or complaining e-mail before I post feedback, because you only get one shot. If there's a problem, I'd like a chance to fix it, or refund the selling price, than to ever get negative feedback. So far I'm doing 100% positive. But getting back to my original comment, it's easy to get confused, perhaps a little pissed about cyber communications. Even with e-mail, someone may something we are offended by, because we can't hear the tone of voice, and don't know the person is joking around. Many times all we have is the cyber link. We don't see the guy in the hardware store or can't call him on the phone.... so we don't know what might have happened in his life that caused what we perceive as a slight.

A little over a year ago, I had a buyer commit to sending me a MO for a knife auction he won... and I waited, and I waited. Two, three weeks went by... nothing. In the meantime, I'd sent a couple reminder e-mails without (thank God) being disagreeable, even though I was starting to get pissed. Then I looked at his mailing address again. It was in Louisiana. Didn't recognize the name of the town, so I MapQuested it. It was a suburb of New Orleans, and Katrina had hit the day after the auction closed. So the next e-mail I sent, I told him I hoped he and his were alright, and to take his time. He did write very soon after, all apologies, and then did send the MO. He said it was okay to send the knife to a certain address.... and hoped the postal service was working better. He never got the knife, because the USPS was still all screwed up, but didn't want his money back. Turns out he was fairly lucky, but he was simply unable to contact me because of their utility problems, and he had friends he needed to help with any spare minute away from his job -- which he was lucky to still have. He was a TL-29 collector, and the one he never got, I think, was an old Queen. A little while after this had passed, I picked up a fairly battered old wood-handled one, don't remember the maker, that I sent him just because... And I may do that again for him if I find another one that is somewhat beyond the ordinary Camillus....

I try not to get too worked up now, when someone is late with any part of an e-bay transaction... they almost always come thru eventually, and there's a good, legitimate reason for the delay. I can only hope people are that understanding when I simply, stupidly don't check my e-mail or feedback for a couple of weeks after my auctions close. I stare at a computer all day at work and some weeks just don't feel like staring at it at home. (As a matter of fact, I've got a couple of old matching Imperials I've been meaning to post here since just before I went on vacation in AUGUST!! But just haven't taken the time.)

I should be more diligent about getting feedback out.... now that I think about it, I think I sill owe some from September sales!! But life goes on and I get busy, and forgetful... Thanx to this thread those quick-pay buyers, who are probably steaming about my not sending feedback will be able to calm down tomorrow....


Thanx for sparking my memory...
Barry
 
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waynorth said:
I often wait untill I've got a bunch of feedbacks to make, and do them all at once, 5 or 10. And usually don't leave any if I'm a little disgruntled. I avoid being negative if possible! But I got stung by an out and out liar with counterfeit knives, and went after Ebay, and got most of my money back. It's actually entertaining to read his stupid feedback, and the negatives I left him!
Mine is under frnorth, and you'll find the cheat because his are my only negatives.
I've learned to avoid non-Paypal users if possible, because you get better protection with it. Paypal(Ebay) doesn't mind so much taking money back from a credit card, but it's very hard to get them to cover a non credit-card transaction.
Blurry or bad pics is another scam procedure.
It helps everyone if you blast the A**holes! Plan your words and give 'em H*ll!
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I just had to read what that jerk:jerkit: wrote on your feedback.......what a piece of work!
I read somewhere that you have so many days to give feedback then they can't back stab you with bullshit return answers like that seller did to you!
I have never left bad feedback as I have been quite lucky on ebay, but I agreewith you, only buy if they have paypal....good advice!:thumbup:

Kap
 
Pretty lame stuff! The knives were clearly counterfeit. I had signed statements from Bernie Levine, and 2 knifemakers. But Ebay only got me part of the money back, because The crook didn't take Paypal!
 
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