Ebay Item #300029522183 25OT, 40's or 50's according to Seller.

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G'Day, Another classic example of someone making a statement about a knife with little or no idea of when it was made. Just an ordinary 25OT Schrade but it must be 50 or 60 years old just because it looks like it according to the seller. Why cant sellers just list the facts they know and leave it to the potential purchaser to decide without embellishing the description to improve their chances of a better price.
I dont contact sellers like this because its ignorance rather than setting out to deceive. What are your thoughts? Hoo Roo from Oz.
 
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230030243208

Ebay auction listings can be fun, funny, strange, madening, outrageous... and sometimes they defy description.

Some sellers take the opportunity to poke fun at themselves, or the item. Some are dead serious with their made-up facts. Some tell you way beyond what they know, and some hold back information that is crucial to the buyer. Some give you enough clear photographs from enough angles, enough background info of the item to let you make up your mind in an informed way. Some just don't have the time, inclination, incentive to do their homework on their items. And some are thieves adept at their craft, such as the guy selling Tidiout and other rare knives cobbled together from various components.

A pet peeve of mine is the sellers who try to boost interest in their knives by claiming them to be "Genuine WWII Issue", or "Vietnam Era". That is one case where I might contact the seller with bare date facts of the company name changes. Some will still maintain their claims that a Schrade hunting knife is a military issue from either of those wars (the Korean war is'nt in vogue for this claim right now). It isn't worth my time and energy to argue with them, so I don't.

Codger
 
Codger,
That is the longest rambling story I've ever read under descriptions. Nice pic of the box! BTW it is a 1978, numbers that year went from 063649 - 076001. I got kind of suspicious when I saw the black handle and black sheath.So do you think he'll get 10 mil.?

Eric
 
Larry,

That looks more like a late seventies model, isn't it? Looks like the blade sat in a bucket of acid since the forties though!

Eric
 
The 25OT was made from 1964-1993, according to Clemente. The hole in the bolster was deleted in 1974, added back in 1976, deleted again in 1989. We have to keep in mind that Mr. Clemente's book is based upon observations of the Schrade catalogs, and his observations of the illustrations in them. At any rate, we know by the tangstamp that this one is post-1973 1/2.
 
Just to clarify, in #4 above I was referring to Codger's link, not Larry's. I think I need a cup of coffee before I start checking the forum.

Eric
 
Count threads like this as one of the reasons I'm no longer here. So the seller either stretched the truth or did not know the facts and took a stab at it? So what? Is he ripping you off personally? Is he costing you money? And what if he hadn't missed the date by a couple of decades; would you have nothing of interest to post here, larry? So actually, in fact, the seller has provided you a service with his item description, has he not?
 
ea42 said:
Codger,
That is the longest rambling story I've ever read under descriptions. Nice pic of the box! BTW it is a 1978, numbers that year went from 063649 - 076001. I got kind of suspicious when I saw the black handle and black sheath.So do you think he'll get 10 mil.?

Eric
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Nah. We've seen other auctions display as much creativity though. IMHO, there are two ways to look at eBay, and knife collecting for that matter. It is either something you do for fun (as seller or buyer), or it is strictly business. A few talented souls have successfully melded both, making it a fun business. And I guess sometimes as collectors we "evolve", and what once was fun becomes serious business. And we tend to forget that others are just in it for fun. Many eBay sellers are just trying to make a buck off the odd knife they run across. Most sellers don't take the time to educate themselves on a particular brand of knife such as Schrade. They've never handled one like that before, and once they get the jingle in their pocket, may never again. A lot of privately held knives move into collector's hands that way.

Posts / threads like this have their value, IMHO. When someone points out a discrepancy on a knife, or in it's listing verbage, we get a chance to investigate the story behind the knife, refresh our memories , and perhaps learn a thing or two about dating that particular knife. That is not a bad thing. Only when one directly interferes with the auction is it a bad thing.

Codger
 
Dear Texastoothpk, I dont think we have met before anyway G'day mate and thanks for your warm welcome. I guess forums are for people to express an opinion and put it up for other forum members to comment on if they agree or disagree or perhaps even to learn in the process.
I know younger Ebay users who buy special gifts for their grandpa or father and might buy that supposed 60 year old item and pay accordingly believing the item may be extra special to them from that vintage.
My point is why not just describe what we are certain about and not just guess... a bit like yourself really. Not another poster who doesn't really post on here but does anyway when he wants to vent his spleen?
With an attitude and personality like yours I bet you brighten up a forum just by leaving it. Now do your worst on me again Pal. Hoo Roo from Downunder.
 
Thanks for your constructive replies Codger and Eric.
That Ebay item you put up Codger is hilarious...am I allowed to say thatTexas? Hoo Roo from Oz.
 
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