Ebay prices

textoothpk

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A topic here, comes up ever once in a while. Face it, for many of us, 'Ebay price' is the benchmark. And ebay is the place to find collectible knives (Schrades, in our case).

I was at two knife buying locales today, the first an auction, and what they were offering was well advertised in the paper for a couple days in advance. This is in Lansing, the capital of Michigan, but not a really large city at all.

Second was a private sale of collectible knives, by invitation only. There were about three dozen of us there, several guys from out of town.

The auction: The Buck Acouna in the well worn box went for 150. It was not a rare model, and I just checked the 'Bay, and found that the locals got no bargain. The Buck Kalinga went for just under that, again, the 'winnng' bidder could have gotten a better deal on a better specimen at ebay. A note here: For three hours, from opening of the sign in, until the item went up on the block, these boxes, knives, sheaths were pawed at, man-handled, tossed around and misused by the grubbiest bunch of greasy fingered yay-hoos I've ever seen. These were not knife collectors as I know them. I noted the little booklet that came with the Schrade boxed 'Kachina' set ended up on the floor, lost forever. The boxed set 'Bear Cult' fared even worse. I never did bid on either of them... and the final prices were $125 and $110 respectively. The more or less desirable knives up for auction went high-- very high, in my opinion. a pair of USMC utility combats- one by Ka-Bar and one from Camillus (these were not WW2 vintage- but used realively recent made blades) went for more than the local knife shop sells them brand new.
The one honestly valuable piece up on the block was an old Remington switchblade in the style of a Schrade 'airborne' knife. No, not the shroud cutter model. It went for $795. I have not enough knowledge to know if that was a good deal or not.

To tell the truth, I saw nothing at this auction that I have not seen at past ones. Very high prices, seriously mishandled items, and the suspected shill in the bidding crowd.

The later, private affair was more civilized.. It ran for three hours, refreshments were served, all orderly and nice. Good grade of merchandize, all carefully-- reverently-- handled by the potential buyers. Still, the marked prices were high. I think I could have beat most of them on ebay, although it would have taken a while. The lone Schrade Walden of any value, a 171UH birdshead pommel, Mint in the box, was priced at $300. Again, I didn't buy anything.

I stopped by the local knife shop on the way home. There were no old Schrades waiting for me, held by the owner until I could have first refusal, but I did buy a CRKT (very high tech) M-16 liner lock. I find it to be to my benefit havng such a great shop here in town, that I buy a knife there often, retail price, (although I do get a discount).

Just my little report and opinion on ebay and knife prices all in all. The thing is, I enjoyed getting out of the house today, enjoyed talking to other knife people, was entertained as well. It's easy to sit at a keyboard and add to one's collection, but it is much, much more fun to get down and dirty in the trenches... old hardware stores, flea markets, gun and knife shows.. except auctions. I am done with them. Until next time.

Have a great weekend

Phil
 
Depending on condition the rem was ball park. I have noticed that there are no bargains on knifes at auctions. In fact most people have no idea of actual value. Often sellers who put one pretty item up for auction often realize an excellant return because the buyers see something and knowing nothing go nuts. The 13 colony sets are great for that often 500 and up at auctions 300 to 400 tops on ebay. On ebay sometimes the lone center clasp will bring 300 up by itself so sometimes you can buy the entire set for less than just the center piece. Last year LB-1 knives brought 125 this year perhapes 30 percent of that price. there is a regular Schrade Para on now over 200 it must have belonged to Audie Murphy. I recently spent 80 dollars for an item at an auction( which needed work ) I had looked for quite some time to find it. Naturally I came home and there was one on ebay ( complete ) which with shipping was 60 since then another has apppeared. What I enjoy is the junk that shows up at auctions. Mostly just that, junk. However I know there is a cigar box out there waiting for me at 10 dollars and gone which will be filled with pristene domestic automatics. I remember the guy who bought the Press button Guardian for 20 dollar and sold it ( he asked me if it was worth anything ) for 2000. The guy at my gun club who went to an auction and for 3 dollars got a Schrade Cut Hunter ( which had been stashed for years )from an old farmer. I told him I would give him 150 but told him that he could do a lot better on an auction site. He told me I was nuts ( he was probably right but that is besides the point ) and to give him the 150 and he would be proud to give me the knife and a big thankyou. Ah yes there is still gold in them thar hills.

So I guess the point is to keep looking but my problem is that I go to look at one tray or a handful of knives and then for some alien reason see other crap that suddenly I must have. Like the printing press or 30,000 old ( 80tys ) comic books 20,000 baseball cards ( or perhapes the numbers are vice versa there sure are a lot of them taking up room. Howabout the 200 paintings I bought at a country general store that some painter used to pay for his grocerys with ( all landscapes ) I wish the hell this guy would get famous already They hang the entire length of my attic on a clothes line type thing I strung up to hold them In the meantime I have to crawl around them to get anything in the attic. How about the 30,000 pieces of lead pewter statues and such that I just couldn't turn down so what the hell I bought the entire inventory of the factory ( the owner used to make this stuff and sell it on the eastern seaboard ( Williamsburg and such) any way his son who apparently was a lot smarter than me gave me a price I could not refuse so I put up a building just to hold that stuff. I sold the stuff for about five years and got fed up with it. I used to call the building the lost dutchman because every week on ebay it brought in money ( like a gold mine). I still have 20 years worth left. How about the 700 liquor water pitchers that I just could not turn down and so it goes. Antique projectors, cash registers ( which I believe are sizewise the heaviest and most awkward item to carry in the world except perhapes my barber chair. Yes an much much more a miasma of feces just to good to throw away. Perhapes tonight I will find room to sleep on the barber chair whoops there is another old imperial case on it. Perhapes the cats will share there spot near the heat on the rug. Of course the RV still has room even though I have been using it to sort Schrade stuff. So a 10 room house fives small buildings ( putting up another ) and I may have to sleep in camper. Makes sense to me. I love auctions and boy do I have STUFF, LT
 
Thanks for the interesting stories. You guys are quite the yarn spinners. :thumbup: :thumbup: :)

Bill

P.S.
LT, sorry to here your asthma is acting up again. I hope it's not the sleeping with the cats thing. :D
 
OK I will bite what is with the asthma??? LT Oh I get it I really meant to say this veritable cornacopia of antiquitys.
 
Is it me or are the ebay prices starting to level/fall. I sold my spare 154UH last week and it went for 47.99. I did a check for 154 OT's and found new ones that went from high 40' to mid 60's. That is a far cry from the 80+ that one went for a couple weeks ago. Also noticed the little fingers have taken a nose dive ever since the factory leftovers have hit the market. LB7's seem to be going for a good price also. There still seems to be plenty of Schrades on ebay and I think we may see prices fall a little more.
 
textoothpk said:
... and the suspected shill in the bidding crowd.

Not overly familiar with the vernacular here, but if a "shill" is what I know as a "ringer" ergo, in "splain inglash", a plant, I suspect ebay of having their share also.... It really makes me suspicious when, "researching" to whom I just lost a particular bid, to see that in the last gazillion items won, few, if ANY, were knives - much less QUALITY knives....

Ohwell.. forgive the mild rant... I'll not get started on, ahh, "SNIPING" I think it's referred to... I call it "swooping".... Been known to do it myself to "survive" but try not to make it a practice...

Phil, LT... I thoroughly enjoyed your "Yarn Spinning".. Keep on spinning!!!:)


dannyb
 
You'll have to trust me, them aint no yarn's being spun.
I've seen the 5 out buildings and the camper and what used to be a garage. Also got to meet the famous Buster.

Im still in awe of the amount of stuff stuffed into 10 rooms.

And I got to take Textoothpk for a ride in my little blue car and I think he left it a few hairs whiter.
TTYL
Larry
 
I apologize for using "yarn spinning".....
I meant it solely in the terms of weaving an interesting account. "SMACK"...I'll brush up a bit on my choice of vernacular...before retuning from the woodshed.

bill (Properly chastised by the guy with the legendary car) :o .

P.S.
I'm glad LT doesn't have asthma.
 
Bill,

Yarn Spinning: I doubt anyone took it as an offense. (they can both tell a good story though!)

The little blue rocket car was traded for a very big car with a Hemi. Just in time for the gas prices to triple. Just my luck and now you all know how good my foresight really is.
TTYL
LArry
 
I've never had the pleasure of meeting Lt or his cats but I can tell you this.One of his cats must be a big one.In a recent deal with Lt I bought a Schrade cap.When it arrived it had white cat hair on it.No big deal to me I've had cats for the last 30 years.In the home where I now live we have 2 great danes, both about 120lbs.No matter where I hang this cap these two walk in, bow like danes do,then lay down and watch that cap like a hawk.I've moved it three times and they still face it like there afraid its going to jump them.Toby
 
Buster and Buddie really appreciate your story but we both know the pussy cat chases the Great Dane just as long as the Great Dane lets him. Here are a couple of pics you might like this chair came from West Point I can verify some of the amazing people in history who's butts it graced. It was in my Dads barber shop when he moved from Oklahoma and set up shop in Newburgh NY. The Chairs were surplused from West Point in the 40 tys As a Kid I got my haircuts in it. It has been recovered the razor strap which chances are you cannot see is the one I learned my manners from. He was going to throw it out about 30 years ago. I was young enough then where I picked it up put it on a pickup and being out of my mind sat in it while a friend drove and I drank a beer in it on the way home. Waving at people as I went. LT PS must be the liquor on buster breath. PPS I just noticed you can see the box on the side of the chair which was sent a while back from a casino in Vegas Ellis Island I lost so much money they send me jackets by the dozen. They make great gifts. I wish I could use them like nails in the story I related a few days ago. If any one remembers what I am talking about.
 
philw said:
Is it me or are the ebay prices starting to level/fall.

I think you are right Phil. A couple weeks ago 152OTs were going around $50.00 (+/- ) MIB, and $30.00+ for a good used one. I just bought one tonight for $9.50. The seller said the handle was faded so maybe I will put a new handle on it.

Dale
 
You know watching a nor easter come in while hunkered down with a fire lots of venison, beans,and whiskey is not such a bad thing. She starts over the Wallkill ( Kill for short, German ) . Blows in like hell went from hot to cold, the deer go back from the fields ( and my back yard into the pines ). The Geese seem to have said what is going on, and have reversed direction twice this year. Still the cold banging in, seems to make the lungs scream as they have only felt as children on a sled slope. Being alive is a strange disease feeling alive is no affliction. LT
 
Dang she is a rollin now cold white and clean like a new piece of linen blanketing all blocking all view, bless the beasts alone in the nite who must endure. So many tonite in the desert who would bless the cool breath so many here who curse it. To be able to stand an view warm, to have attained and done it all. Means nothing when alone. OK I shall now Howl at the Moon . In fact I may Moon the moon. LT
 
Winter pretty much avoided Southwestern Tennessee this year, except for a few days in the teens back before Christmas. The past few weeks had been nearly springlike. But Snow set in Friday and today (what we here in the Mid-South call snow), and a bit of late winter has come indeed. It will be gone in a few days, no trace even on the northern shady hills, and the chickens will be blessing us once again with more eggs than we can say grace over and give to the neighbors.

Normally, winter is a break from the pool construction business, and I go to the shop to run a CNC, or work for another contractor in the building trades. This winter I have gone non-stop, building three large pools all by myself with only occasional help from my soninlaw. An unusual winter to say the least. This cold spell is giving me a couple weeks rest, then I'll be back at it with no time off til fall. This year I may continue to work as a sole contractor. The past few I worked with another contractor, freeing me up to do the construction while he ran about chasing jobs and materials. Last spring, he had a turn of health that restricted his activity, and that changed the equation of equity in our division of labor, expense and profit. I am not sure he will be back in the saddle this spring, if ever. And I have only just so many seasons left ahead of me as well, so I'll not slow down just yet and wait for him to catch up.
Codger
 
lt632ret said:
Dang she is a rollin now cold white and clean like a new piece of linen blanketing all blocking all view, bless the beasts alone in the nite who must endure. So many tonite in the desert who would bless the cool breath so many here who curse it. To be able to stand an view warm, to have attained and done it all. Means nothing when alone. OK I shall now Howl at the Moon . In fact I may Moon the moon. LT

Now that's SPINNING !!! Yarn or no Yarn !!!

LT, you must of been a poet in another life... Inspiring words....

Except for the "mooning" of course !!!

Is that "Jack Black", "Crown" or "Turkey" ????

OBTW, Bill; "Yarn Spinning", was taken as being complementary and was referred to as being such... Command of the written word, as LT's just posted description of the storm, is a gift... Just made me thankful the good Lord planted me in the SOUTH !!!! Just stay off the roads... Get a little "spit" of snow as we got (and are getting) and folks around here go NUTS!!!

Seriously; Hope all weather the storms well....

danny
 
Well, I managed to dig out okay. Only about 14", not alot really. I don't know about Larry.

I had to cancel our Cub Scout Blue and Gold banquet on Sunday because of the weather. We'll shoot for next Sunday.

Razor strop, huh? I learned mine from dad's belt. Amazingly enough, I didn't turn into an axe murderer. :rolleyes:

You rode the barber chair home in the back of a pickup? Now, that is funny.

Great memories, Rich! Thanks.

Glenn
 
orvet said:
...... A couple weeks ago 152OTs were going around $50.00 (+/- ) MIB, and $30.00+ for a good used one. I just bought one tonight for $9.50......

Dale


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I think you are right. Individual pattern prices seem to swing through fads. Many buyers are on the top of the curve in terms of what they are willing to pay for a knife of a given pattern and vintage, paying top dollar to have that knife now. And some buyers are flexible enough to wait out the fad buyers, concentrating on other patterns and vintages until the fad passes and prices drop.

Codger
 
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