ebay purchase questions

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I just received a recent Sharpfinger 152 purchase in the mail today (ebay #300067902713). Coming on the heels of a recent 156OT purchase it took me a while to make peace with, I think I might have gotten screwed on this Sharpfinger. The seller described the knife as "New" & "New, unused, old stock," & "Excellent condition as it has been in storage since brand new". It does not appear to be so. I have several questions. Hopefully you guys can help.

1) The blade looks like it has been subjected to post-factory sharpenening. There is way more "edge" than on any 152 factory grind that I've seen, particularly near the choil and particularly on the side opposite the tang stamp. The profile of the edge is uneven. The blade, other than the edge, looks untouched. I ran an edge tester down the blade. The blade edge is rough and bumpy. No question here.

2) There is HEAVY rust on the tang on the butt of the knife. The rest of the tang looks clean; but, the brown portion of the delrin adjacent to the tang is completely gone. The only places where I have the usual uneven brown on top of cream on the bottom and top of the handle is where there is rust. I looks to me like someone took a dremel to the tang and took off the brown in the process. Probably didn't do the butt because they would have had to take off the lanyard and were too lazy. I know handling processes changed over the years. WAS THERE EVER A TIME WHEN NEW 152's HAD ALL THE BROWN GROUND OFF THE TOP AND BOTTOM OF THE HANDLES OR HAVE THE HANDLES ALWAYS HAD THE UNEVEN WAVY LINE WHERE THE BROWN AND CREAM MEET?

3) The sheath looks clean rather than new, if that makes any sense. Also, the lower half of the back of the sheath is considerably darker than the rest of the sheath and there are very pronounced vertical wrinkles in the leather on the back of the sheath - almost like the sheath got wet and rested on something uneven. No sign of mildew or unusual odor. ANY IDEA WHAT WOULD CAUSE THIS WRINKLING EFFECT AND THE DARK HALF OF THE SHEATH? HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS BEFORE?

4) The tang stamp, sheath design, box, and literature seem to be contemporary. However, the brown box has a white sleeve over it, which can be removed. The sleeve perfectly fits the box and the brown ends are exposed with no underlap or overlap. HAS ANYONE EVER SEEN A SLEEVE LIKE THIS OVER ONE OF THE BROWN BOXES BEFORE?

One wonders what a seller is thinking when he tries to pull something like this. This is the downside of the internet age. In the old days of in-person purchases, if a guy pulled a fast one and wouldn't make it right, you could always elect to take the thirty days of three hots and a cot on the county option. Sometimes it was worth it (or felt like it at the time).
On the upside, I got in a Sharpfinger user yesterday that I paid $15.50 for that's in better shape than this "NEW" one. Go figure.
 
Barry,The only one of your questions I can help you with is about the sleeve.If your saying the sleeve has no ends that is how the one on my mib 152 came.As for the rest you'll have to post pictures.I suggest since you are buying mib knives ask the seller for better pictures of the knives and ask questions.Any good seller will answer.If they won't don't bid.Also check feedback on seller.Forgot to say don't buy unless you get a money back guarantee.Arnold
 
i have 6 sharpfingers and all of them have a different edge on them, maybe thats where the factory started you out if you had no skills.some start out normal at the tip and get real wide at the back,looks kinda crude.the one and only hollow ground i have, has a much better edge.take care
 
Barry, it sounds like knife collecting is really stressing you out. It looks like the seller answered your questions accurately. The knife and sheath look to be correct for that style box and sleeve, I believe some others here can give you more percise dating on that but it looks like a fair price for that knife. Keep in mind that the edge on these knives was ground by hand and you will find variations if every knife, maybe it was a Monday morning thing.
If I were going to bitch about anything it would be the $8.50 for shipping, but you knew that before you bid on it. Good luck
 
Hey Barry.
I've read several of your posts regarding the "factory grinds" on fixed blade knives (a topic I'm fairly ignorant about), as well as your practical experience in bringing a nice sharp edge to these patterns. I've learned a lot through your expereince sharpening knives. I wanted to comment that back in November I found and purchased two 152OT sharpfinger knives out of a display case at a hardware store, both are in the traditional Tan/Black box, and I believe I was the first one to open the boxes. I opened them again up this morning, and inspected them. The factory grinds on them are completely different. One appears to have been ground from both sides, giving the sharp edge equal bevil on both sides of the blade. The other one appears to have been groundto a similar bevil on one side, with the remaining side left virtually flat. I recall you starting a post about a similar topic once. They are both real sharp. I also purchased a newer vintage 152OT (in a different hardware store) a couple weeks before those, to send to another forum member that needed a new one to complete his display case. If I remember correctly, it wasn't nearly as sharp as these two older ones. I hope you find this info useful.
 
Upstream. I agree as far as assemblage matching. It's condition that's the issue. The price may be fair for knife in its condition. However, the seller used the word "NEW" three times; whatever this knife is or isn't, it ain't new. I don't think it is mint or near mint. As far as stress, it does torque me a little when I think someone has intentionally mislead me; but, I tend to turn it into a positive by the time its all over.

Thawk. Good memory. I'm by no means a Sharpfinger or a sharpening expert. Just really getting going on collecting Schrades. I do have some experience sharpening knives; but, my understanding is constantly evolving. I am always reminded of Mark Twain's comment, "It ain't what a man don't know that will get him. It's what he's sure he knows that just ain't so." That said, on the relatively few truly new Sharpfingers that I have seen, it is not unusual for the final bevel to be wider on one side of the blade than on the other. This notwithstanding, the final bevel on each side is fairly even and the blade edge profile is even. Also, the edge can pass all four levels of testing with an edge tester. Obviously, sharpening marks across the blade would indicate not only sharpening; but, poor sharpening. Even in the absence of sharpening marks on the face of the blade, the following things make me suspect post-factory sharpening: 1) Very wide final bevels on both sides of the blade; 2) obviously uneven final bevels on either side of the blade; 3) obviously uneven blade profile; 3) a very rough, coarse, yet EVEN feel to the blade at level 3 or level 4 of an edge test (use, on the other hand, usually results in a very rough, coarse, and BUMPY feel as early as level 2 in an edge test); 4) A very noticeable protrusion just back of where the thin part of the blade starts (When I have sharpened Sharpfingers for the first time or even when I have set a correct edge on a user I am rehabilitating, this protrusion begins to emerge even though the rest of the blade is coming into perfect profile with an absolute even and symetrical final bevel). Michael might be a good one to jump in on this. He obviously knows a lot about the Sharpfingers and I suspect, based upon the fact that he uses his knives a lot and his general approach to everything, that he is real competent at putting a good edge on a knife.
 
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