EDC Comparison

[resinguy]

Tony G was kind enough to lend me a Leaner and an Active Duty to check out. So I took some pics comparing them to a Black Tie Game Warden and a Dozier K-1 I scored recently off eBay. This model Dozier is a sort of general purpose utility blade.

Handles. Order is reveresed from above.

Spine shot.

I also took some measurements. All the Busse knives had a fairly blocky handle, while the K-1 was more barrell shaped, top to bottom, and lenghtwise.
Spine thickness was measured just in front of the scales, at the top of the ricasso. I measurd the thickness of the blade at the top of the edge bevel, and the width of that bevel. Then I took the thickness at 0.44" back from the edge, and used that to calculate the (included) angle of the primary grind. The Dozier is hollow ground, has the thinnest edge, and would make a better slicer.

Handle Spine Behind Edge bevel Width of Edge Bevel "@ 0.44" behind edge Angle of Primary Bevel


Leaner L 0.6 0.143 0.034 0.05 0.095 12.3

AD LE 0.6 0.152 0.024 0.05 0.1 13

Dozier K-1 .63 - .50 0.143 0.022 0.035 0.05 6.5

GW 0.63 0.141 0.025 0.034 0.074 10




But none of these will be mistaken for a good kitchen utility knife. My $20 Dale Warther Utility model is only 0.10" thick, and a Kasumi 5" utility knife is only 0.01" thick at the edge bevel. Those are slicers, but not stout enough for field work.

I would still like to see an Anorexic Warden, with the same full flat grind. And while you're at it, Jerry, how about and extra 1/2 inch in length, so the knife is not all belly?

Thanks to Tony for the use of a few of his toys!

 

[resinguy]

OK, my data table is f****. I wanted to paste in an Excel sheet, but that didn't work. It's too late at night to try and figure it out. Anyone know how to put a table in here?

 

[MORIMOTOM]

thx for the pics! tony is going to have to pry those edc's from your hands after you play with them a bit!!!!

 

[MORIMOTOM]

Anyone know how to put a table in here?

easy.

 

[ThunderUnderKilt]

Nice comparison. I'm looking for a good EDC slicer. I'm thinking I'll end up getting Bill Seigel to regrind my Milganzaaa AD or MS.

 

[Ken44]

OK, my data table is f****. I wanted to paste in an Excel sheet, but that didn't work. It's too late at night to try and figure it out. Anyone know how to put a table in here?

Now I see this after I was thinking I was just out of the loop looking at those numbers.

I agree, A 1/2 on the GW would make it the stuff, and a thin .125 blade would make it a great light EDC slicer.:thumbup:

 

[Ken44]

Good one Mark

 

[Tyrkon Lawson]

Great pics! I need an old shool MS for an EDC.

 

[ThunderUnderKilt]

Poor man's table

+------------+----------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ 
| Leaner L   | 0.6      | 0.143 | 0.034 | 0.050 | 0.095 | 12.3 |
| 	     |		|	|	|	| 	|      |
| AD LE      | 0.6      | 0.152 | 0.024 | 0.050 | 0.100 | 13.0 |
| 	     |		|	|	|	| 	|      |
| Dozier K-1 | 0.63-.50 | 0.143 | 0.022 | 0.035 | 0.050 |  6.5 |
| 	     |		|	|	|	| 	|      |
| GW         | 0.63     | 0.141 | 0.025 | 0.034 | 0.074 | 10.0 |
+------------+----------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+

 

[mikeymoto]

Resinguy, thanks for this great info!

 

[Troop]

Great pics! I need an old shool MS for an EDC.

:thumbup: Excellent choice! That's what I'm carrying;
a DWMS. She's a sweetie!

 

[tsiloics]

I would still like to see an Anorexic Warden, with the same full flat grind. And while you're at it, Jerry, how about and extra 1/2 inch in length, so the knife is not all belly?

Yes, precisely. I don't personally need the extra 1/2"... but that would be the missing link of Busses. No doubt.

 

[resinguy]

Poor man's table

+------------+----------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ 
| Leaner L   | 0.6      | 0.143 | 0.034 | 0.050 | 0.095 | 12.3 |
| 	     |		|	|	|	| 	|      |
| AD LE      | 0.6      | 0.152 | 0.024 | 0.050 | 0.100 | 13.0 |
| 	     |		|	|	|	| 	|      |
| Dozier K-1 | 0.63-.50 | 0.143 | 0.022 | 0.035 | 0.050 |  6.5 |
| 	     |		|	|	|	| 	|      |
| GW         | 0.63     | 0.141 | 0.025 | 0.034 | 0.074 | 10.0 |
+------------+----------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+

THANKS!!

column headings:

col 2: Handle thickness
col 3: Spine, just forward of scales, top of ricasso
col 4: thickness just behind edge bevel
col 5: width of edge bevel
col 6: Thickness of blade at 0.44" behind edge
col 7: calculated angle of primary bevel

 

[mymindisamob]

easy.

 

[xaman]

Great info -- thanks for all that work!

I rotate between the LRMs and the GW, both great little knives.

 

[resinguy]

Nice comparison. I'm looking for a good EDC slicer. I'm thinking I'll end up getting Bill Seigel to regrind my Milganzaaa AD or MS.

Some of folks over on the Toolshed forum have had Tom Krein do reginds for them

 

[ThunderUnderKilt]

Some of folks over on the Toolshed forum have had Tom Krein do reginds for them

Yeah, I've seen his work, and he's also on the top of my list. Cliff has lots of nice things to say about Tom.

 

[MORIMOTOM]

i was in a "thread hijack" mood last night.

 

[Tony G]

thx for the pics! tony is going to have to pry those edc's from your hands after you play with them a bit!!!!

If these guys I'm riding with have their way Guy will have nothing to worry about because they are going to put me in my grave on tomorrow's ride.

 

[resinguy]

If these guys I'm riding with have their way Guy will have nothing to worry about because they are going to put me in my grave on tomorrow's ride.

Quick! Put all the rest of your collection in a Flat Rate box and send it to me! I don't know who the executor of your estate is, but surely they will not properly value all those "shiny, sharp things" you have.