EDC Lock Question/Problem?

[Bugs3x]

Hi all. Totally forgetting that Camillus had a forum here, I just posted the following thread on the Review forum. Just when done, remembered that this forum exists.

Well, 36 days after ordering and being billed for it, my EDC finally arrived. Got the 154CM variety.

Had I not just gotten a CRKT S-2 a couple days ago, I might not have the concern I do. When I open my S-2, I hear a very distinct, solid SNAP. The locking part of the handle is fully engaged with the blade tang. You just know by looking at it that there is no chance that lock is coming undone until you do it on purpose.

The EDC gives an almost hollow little THUNK when I open it. At least 1/3, maybe closer to 40% of the handle lock bar is not in contact with the tang. Given a quite noticeable slant to the tang, it looks entirely possible to me that the right/wrong level of force/torque, whatever, might indeed cause the lock to slip.

You others that got the EDC, how much of your lock lines up with the tang? Do your locks line up completely with the tang? Has anyone had any failures, scares or whatever about the lock not being solid?

After waiting so bloody long to get this, am not anxious to send it back. It has already hit my CC interest once, and soon will again. If I send it back, will have paid 2 months interest before ever getting to use the knife.

Guess I'm hoping for either assurance that all of them line up like mine, or a definite, it is wrong send it back sort of message.

Thanks in advance,

Just realized that the reason that ATS-34 was on the box my EDC came in for a reason. The box is for the CUDA in that steel. Are the EDCs supposed to come in a box made for them, or just whatever Camillus box is lying around?


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[This message has been edited by Bugs3x (edited 06-04-2001).]

 

[SALTY]

I'm no expert and YMMV but it sounds to me like you need to clean it of all lube, snap it open a whole bunch of times, (not really a forceful flick, but good healthy snaps), the clean and lube.

Mine started out a little "jeft of center" and settled into a better engagement after a while. Just look at the thickness of the locking bar and compare its present level (amount) of engagement to the full thickness of the liner on some "hard use" linerlocks. Then tell me if you think you have adequate engagement.

 

[Dexter Ewing]

My 154CM EDC engages about halfway. If your lock isn't setting in, try giving it a few firm spine whacks. Also keep in mind that through time, the tang face and lock bar end will burnish, allowing it to engage a little deeper.

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[Will Fennell]

Bugs,
Sorry if you had problems recieving your 154CM EDC. I know that there have been some delays with some things due to Mike Turber and 1sks.com parting ways, and it is unfortunate if you got caught in the middle. On to your knife...

First off, rest assured if you have any problems, we will of course stand behind the knife.

But more to the point, everything "sounds" ok from what you describe. Regarding different sounds the EDC and the S2 make, they are both made out of different materials. S2 frame is Ti, and the EDC is heat treated stainless steel. They are certainly going to make different sounds. If the knife is new, and the lock bar is going approximately half way across the tang or more, you are in good shape. This means that the tang will "settle in" with close to full engagement. Understand, the difference in lenght of the lock bar, if the lock bar goes from one side to the other on the tang of the blade, is only .015". Not alot of lenght difference. With stainless having better wear properties and higher tensile strenght, this is how Darrel designed it. I of course want to knock on wood saying this, but we have had NADA, ZIP, ZERO reports of lock failure in use of the EDC, 154cm or otherwise.

You caught me on the box! Those are the same boxes we use for the CUDA QUICK ACTION, with is currently using ATS-34 for the blade steel. Now that we are coming ouut with new CUDA series folders, we have changed the artwork for the box, dropping the ATS-34 designation. The new boxes weren't ready when we shipped those 154cm EDC's, but since EVERYBODY here on Bladeforums wanted the knives ASAP, we used the origninal boxes. Sorry if it caused any confusion.

IF you have any further questions, please post them here, or email me direct. Thanks for being a customer and enjoy your EDC!



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Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery
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[Bugs3x]

Thanks for your responses. I appreciate them.

As I indicated when I posted the thread, wasn't sure whether or not I had a problem. I feel fairly certain that if I'd not gotten the S-2 before, I'd not have been worried in the slightest.

Am not sure at all what happened, but this morning, the first time I opened the EDC, the lock engaged by probably 80% of the lock. I doubt I opened it more than a couple dozen times yesterday, with no appreciable changes, but then today, it moved over farther. I think maybe some credit is deserved by the Tuf Glide.

Since the majority of my knives are liner locks, I feel I have a good sense of whether or not there is a safe level of engagement. The rather soft sound of the opening "snap" worried me some -- not only in comparison to the S-2, but also with the majority of my linerlocks. That sound has even changed today. It is much more crisp a sound.

So, I guess it was a tempest in a teapot. Much ado about nothing. Nevertheless, I do truly appreciate the responses I rec'd, particularly from Will. Having the company be so supportive on the forums is very important to me, and I put a lot of faith in a company that is so open about addressing problems.

Am a newbie so far as Camillus is concerned. Only other Camillus knife I have is the ArcLite. That may well change.

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