EDC vertical play..

KennyC

KennyC

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i just got an EDC today from a fellow forums member and its got some blade play(which was stated prior to the sale). is there anything i can do without sending it back to the company? i'm in canada so shipping might be quite expensive and the customs hold-up will take too long. thanks.:)
 
kenster: customs is usually not much of a problem as long as the slip says warranty repair. I've not yet been billed or have a knife held up if the customs slip says repair when the knife comes back.
The only time that I got charged is when "repair" was left out on the customs slip, but I fought it off with the note that came back with the knife.
You can try and tighten the pivot to see whether the blade play would be minimized. If it's really bad I would suggest you send it back. With a liner/frame lock, I found that vertical play usually isn't a problem unless the liner get seriously worned out. And that doesn't happen easily. Side to side movement should be dealt with the pivot being tightened, at the expense that the knife is harder to unfold.
 
I had a problem with vertical play, caused by the locking bar not being fully in contact with the locking surface on the blade. No amount of tightening at the pivot changed this, which was rather maddening.

I finally fixed it by disassembling the knife and manually bending the locking bar further over to the right (the locked position). I folded up a piece of paper, stuck it in the gap between the locking bar and the rest of the handle, and left it there overnight.

I guess I've voided my warranty. :p
 
AlphalphaPB: the lockbar is already as far as it will get unless i purposely push it over more, its beyond the point where it will bend any more to the right and not spring back.

i've loosened and tightened the pivot quite a bit, to get the right tightness for me, and its obvious(theres marks on the hole). have i voided the warranty yet?

side-to-side play is negligible, only felt when i conciously try to move it, but vertical play can be felt by opening the knife, holding the handle, and shaking it back and forth, and heard as a series of clicking sounds, its not really affecting the performance while i use it, but im just sort of picky on small things like these...thanks.
kenny

Edited to add: oops, i just understood what you meant alpha, but i'd rather not have to void the warranty until nothing else works, thanks though.:)
 
Besides problems at the locking bar end, there is the slight possibility that your stop pin is deformed, perhaps from the back of the blade slamming into it. I really doubt this though, since I've only had it happen on one knife of mine. I flicked it open a lot, it had a heavy blade, and the stop pin *might* have been made of relatively soft titanium.

You might want to try loosening both screws holding the stop pin in place and rotating the pin to present a new face for the blade to contact. I've messed up a cheap T6 driver bit trying to do this, so don't try too hard if nothing's moving. I'm not sure if this would void the warranty, but you don't have to completely disassemble the knife. You just have to remove the clip.

However this will only help if the gap causing the blade play is incredibly small.

edited to add:
Interesting, I took a look at Camillus' warranty statement, and it's quite short so I'll type it out here:
Not Covered:
Knives that are misused, abused or rusted.
Covered:
Parts proven to be defective in material and workmanship after factory inspection for as long as you own your knife.
Click to expand...
Perhaps disassembly isn't frowned upon by Camillus?
 
the gap causing the bladeplay IS incredibly small, i cant see the blade move at all, but it can be felt, i would've rotated the pin as there is a small wear spot on it, but i dont seem the have the right size allen key, if its an allen key at all, i notice that the screws holding the clip are torx screws, why any manufacturer would use more than one type of screw for the same knife is beyond me...thanks for all your help.:)
Kenny
 
I've had a similiar problem with my EDC Ken. Te stop pin became very deformed (dented) after a few weeks of use. This was without flicking it open hard. I've sent it back to Camiluss (from Australia). I'll post a result of how the knife came back when I recieve it. I'd encourage sending in to the people at Camillus. Their warranty service is good.
 
AlphalphaPB: the sheet that came with my knife also says the same thing, but then under Camillus' shipping address, it also says:

Lifetime Warranty does not cover:
Knives that are misused, abused or rusted. Dissasembly of your knife will void this warranty.

Ming65: please let us know how it turns out when you get the knife back.

thanks to all who replied in this thread, you've really helped me out.:)

Kenny
 
Got the EDC back from Camillus today. I don't know what they did but the lockup is now rock solid, locking bar 1/3 of the way across the tang, just like it should be etc. Before I sent it away the lock up was highly variable and moving all the way across to contact the opposite scale, regardless of how tight I made the pivot. It doesn't appear that they changed the stop pin either as this seems to have the same markings as before. The only thing I can think of is that the bolts holding the stop pin may have loosened. Given that this is one of three points holding the thing together, having it loose may have introduced some slight twisting which may have thrown the contact point of the locking bar out. I'm told getting this right in manufacture is a very precise art/science.

I couldn't get to tighten this myself as the allen head on the lock bar side is under the pocket clip which is held by three torx screws that I didn't have a tool for.

I'd love to know what they did but the repair slip that came back with the knife didn't elaborate.

Oz customs opened the package but didn't hold up the knife.
 
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