Edge Angles?

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I've read that for the most part, 40 degrees is a good edge angle for the majority of working knives (eg. EDC, around the work shop, etc.) but that 30 degrees is more useful in knives that will do more slicing and lighter cutting tasks. Does it matter what steels are involved and is blade thickness also a consideration (eg. 154CM and 0.13" thickness)? If the blade is thicker (eg. 0.16") can a 30 degree angle be used without chipping or breaking away at the edge? For your EDC, what is your practical edge angle?
 
The thickness is taken from the spine so it is no mark for the edge angle.

Every angle you have mentioned is right for any steel you find on market unless you want a thinner edge and angle. Than you should look around carbon steels.

Butt in between 30 or 40°, don´t worry, go for what is more important for you. If you need a stronger but little less cutting edge because you cut tin cans any third day or you just want to feel you could do this, take 40. If you want a very sharp edge take 30.

O do a compromise and put it together. A main edge bevel of 30° and the very very edge finished on 40°. That´s what the Sharpmaker does.

Considering the blade geometry you find in general that a blade, thick over the edge needs to have a small edge angle like 30° or little less. If it runs out thinner, you can use a greater angle for durability.

For example the BM 806 D2 is a little thick over the edge (around .8mm). The 550 is thinner. You can add a large angle on the 550 for a durable edge and still have a knife that will cut great. The 806 works better with 30° but this angle is somehow weaker.

Hope this helps.

I found, that edge chipping is more detemined by the steel. I tried it on a d2 blade. Every angle between 30 and 50° i have taken showed me the typical micro chips. So i ended up with something around 35° and with it i am satisfied.
 
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Blop said:
Every angle between 30 and 50° i have taken showed me the typical micro chips.
Whose D2 was it? Were the chips forming during sharpening, or after the cutting, if it was after the cutting what was being cut?

-Cliff
 
Cliff Stamp said:
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Whose D2 was it? Were the chips forming during sharpening, or after the cutting, if it was after the cutting what was being cut?

-Cliff

BMs.

After cutting card board. But not like it was with the first blade (this was my first topic here and you did help me a lot), where i get a saw-edge. There are just one or two "chips" which doesn´t go away with steeling. The edge is fine. I pushed and hammered it into a small nail with no problem like i did with other blades from other steel with similar angle with no problem too.

Every edge showed some kind of wear or chip after cutting card board. Depending on the expected grain size more if the steel is fine and less if it is more D2 like or PM.
 
Yah, cardboard will chip edges during extended cutting, if you check the edge under magnification you can see stress lines where the edge has fatigued. if you keep cutting the edge starts to crack along these lines and lose pieces. Harder steels resist deformation more so are less prone to chipping which is opposite to how they behave for harder work. If you cut the cardboard really fast you can also get edge overheating effects which combined with the higher speed of impacts cause the edge to dull and chip much faster.

-Cliff
 
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