(Edited with more info and pictures) help dating Gerber Mark II, Maybe Vietnam era?

rc51kid

Gold Member
Joined
Dec 7, 2009
Messages
137
I have a large number of knives i acquired and i am really enjoying learning about them. This one didnt interest me much. I figured it was "just a Gerber". But today I started looking at it. Figured out it is a Mark II. Then i realized it look pre 1982, no serrations and numeric serial number. But then I started looking at the sheath, it looks old. But i know that doesn't mean much. It does have a pocked for a stone which looks different than some pictures i see of Vietnam era sheaths. So that was strange.

The knife has a serial number of 003064. I think i saw that another one with serial number of "007XXX" was around 1978. Kind of surprised that my knife is so old. But I would like to hear from anyone that can tell me for sure a date or info if this is Vietnam era or any more info.

Edit: After spending some more time looking and talking with people this is what i have found. It looks like it is a very early, probably 1967 knife. There is the chance it was over in Vietnam since i got it from a Vietnam veteran. I knew him to often bring back things from his deployments over the years. But i know for a fact that his primary knife through his 3 tours was his Randal. He told me a lot about the Randal. We have pictures of him with the Randal over there and we have that Randal. But it is strange to me that he never mentioned this Gerber. Realistically I would say he probably just acquired this Gerber over the years. But it is curious that this one came from his estate, and he was deployed over there when this was made. But i know of a few of his knives that he acquired from other guys he was deployed with and then he just brought them home. Guess we will never know for sure.

This one looks correct for 1967, cats tongue, canted blade, narrow blade, brown sheath and so on. I sent some detailed pictures to another member. They noticed something i didnt. The edge of the "G" is worn. Maybe the blade was polished or buffed at some point? Can you guys take a look and give your opinion? If it was i know it will reduce value. But if you guys can help me with a rough idea of value I would appreciate it.

Its too much to explain right now. But eventually this one will get sold. My plan is to give 100% of the sale price to St. Jude. My wife and I do a fund raiser due to personal family connection. Since this knife came from the family it felt appropriate. When we get things set up I will give the story and post it up. But I would like to try to get a good estimate of value so I can know where to start on price. 20250101_174159.jpg20250101_174142.jpg20250118_120657.jpg20250118_120746.jpg20250118_120809 (1).jpg
20250101_174159.jpg20250101_174159.jpg
20250101_174142.jpg
 
Last edited:
Thats really cool. Ive only known gerber as the maker of bany toys. Such as their frame lock designs. I like that knife a lot!

I kind of had the same thought. I ended up with about 100 random knives all at once due to an estate. This Gerber was the least of my interest. Then i started looking at it today and the quality was much better than expected. I googled it and it kind of resembled some of the Vietnam knives. But i thought "no way can it be that old". Nice surprise for sure.
 
If I remember correctly it was to have the blade on a horizontal plane when you stabbed someone, say in the ribs, so it would slide between the ribs cleanly. No connection to a bayonet. John
 
I had one back in the late 70s, it had a short tapered tang into the handle, handle came off quite easily.
 
polish advenger. I doubt that. Carried a conventional, non-bent fixed blade knife for 24 years in the field, never had a problem with it snagging. pretty sure original advertisements had it bent to penetrate a body. John
 
polish avenger. I stand corrected. I just found the same information, that the designer, Clarence Holzman, who had been in the 101st Airborne Division in WWII, designed the knife in 1966. The "offset to permit the knife to be carried in boot, at the hip, small of the back (waist) or between the shoulder blades without snagging on brush, etc + permit better concealment." I did find one reference to the 5 degree cant "in order to ride in the sheath more comfortably and give the user a grip similar to that of a fencing foil", but not sure if that was something that Gerber said in its adds or someone came up with that theory on its own. There were plenty of writing in the adds about how the blade would penetrate flesh and bone or web gear, but nothing I could find specifically that the 5 degree cant of the blade was designed for that. I did hear a story that a British SAS man used one with the serrated edges to thrust in between the ribs of an Argentinian soldier, the ribs parted, the blade went in, the ribs closed back on the serrated portion of the edge, and the SAS man was unable to get the knife out. I bought mine when I was going to a course at Ft Meade Maryland. Getting a haircut and there was a USMC "Leatherneck" magazine with an add for the knife. I sent Gerber a check and it went from Maryland to Oregon and back in 9 days. I took it to Vietnam, but did not carry it in the field, instead used my Ben Hibben Jungle Fighter, which was in forged 440C, and was not a problem with rust, as the L6 steel would easily rust. John
 
Back
Top