Eisenhower really carried one.

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I just finished working my way through hundreds of pages of a biography called "Eisenhower, A soldiers Story" by Carlo D'Este. It deals very extensivly with the life of Ike up till the Operation Overloard, including his childhood and how his early life shaped this person. Facinating to say the least.

Ike grew up in poverty at the end of the frontier days of Abaline Kansass, and as a boy learned to hunt and fish to help put food on the table. His family was so poor the all his cloths were thread bare hand me downs from his older brother. One person who had a very strong influence on his life was an old cowboy who lived in a shack outside of town. He tought young Ike alot about nature, and hunting. Ike grew to be very proficiant at putting game on the table, and he enjoyed the rugged outdoor life.

With a situation where he was counting every penny, he bought the most plain little pocket knife the towns general store had. Since the larger the knife, the higher the price tag, Ike learned to dress rabbits and squirrels with a small pen knife. He got used to it so much, that later as a graduate of West Point and a officer in the army, he always carried a similar knife for the rest of his life. In fact, his early impovershed years made such an impression on him, he was a lifelong very thifty person.

In the 1920's he was stationed in some rough places like Panama, and the Phillipines. He would take horseback trips into the Panamanian jungles and camp out, and fish and explore. He would say he found a million uses for a sharp knife. He carried a machete with his jungle gear, but always had the little pocket knife.

Also because of his early outdoor life of hunting and fishing, he was of the opinion that everyman should have a sharp knife on him. That is one reason he was fond of giving out small pocket knives as gifts. He was so fanatical about having his knife and Zippo lighter with him, that once he was on the way to a meeting with the British Air Marshall that was to co-ordanate the RAF operations with the US air corp, when he shouted to his driver to turn around. They got back to his headquarters and he ran in and got his lighter and pocket knife from the bedside table where he had forgotten them in his hurry to dress. He'd rather be late to an important meeting on the eve of D-day, that go without his pocket knife.

Reading this book, it was so interesting that some of the very things we have talked about here, were discussed in the book. Like Ike growing up using the most minimal equiptment like an old single barrel shotgun and a pen knife, that later even though he was well off, he would stay with modest gear.

The book was a facinating look into what made this man the minute planning genius he was.
 
Sounds like a good read, Jackknife. May have to give that one a look.
 
That does sound like a good read. I will go to town tomorrow and check the local libriary to see if they have it or can get it for me.
Being a fan of the little Case Eisenhower pen knife has just naturally made me interested in the man himself.
Jim
 
That does sound like a good read. I will go to town tomorrow and check the local libriary to see if they have it or can get it for me.
Being a fan of the little Case Eisenhower pen knife has just naturally made me interested in the man himself.
Jim

A very amazing man when you find out what he had to go through in his early life to get to where he got. Very early in his army career he was recognized as being an organizing genius. He was groomed for years by high ranking officers impressed with his mind, inluding General Marshall. It was no accident of fate, that although George Patton graduated a few years ahead of him, and was a superior officer, was passed by, by Ike, and was resentfull of him. Patton felt he should have been the Allied Supreme Comander. They had been friends in the 1920's, but gradually fell out over differences of opinions on how the next war in Europe would be fought. Patton felt that an all out charge was going to be the winning stategy, while Ike argued that it was going to be logistics and carefull planning. Patton called Ike a timid old woman.

Ike became supreme Allied Supreme Comander, and on one occasion almost relieved Patton of his command.

It was also facinating to read where before WW2 when Ike was a Colonel, he was attched to something ambigously called The War Memorial Survey, where he was detailed to go inspect "the WW1 war monumets of the U.S. soldiers burried in France". He spent the whole summer driving around France and the Normandy coast, taking notes, and mapping important crossroads. Hmmm. Do we smell intellegence work here? When he was supreme comander he personally knew much of the ground we were fighting on.

The book was a terrific read.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
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It was also facinating to read where before WW2 when Ike was a Colonel, he was attched to something ambigously called The War Memorial Survey, where he was detailed to go inspect "the WW1 war monumets of the U.S. soldiers burried in France. He spent the whole summer driving around France and the Normandy coast, taking notes, and mapping important crossroads. Hmmm. Do we smell intellegence work here? When he was supreme comander he personaaly knew much of the ground we were fighting on.

Tha is kind of cool how Ike would have been able to picture much of Normandy in his head from that summer. That was probably very fortunate for the invasion forces on D-Day and the allied effort.
 
Jackknife, Is there any info in the book about which Case model he carried and later presented to guests of the White House? I had read that he carried a pen knife (maybe 6263?) but gave away the 6333 small stockman? thanks. ft
 
Jackknife, Is there any info in the book about which Case model he carried and later presented to guests of the White House? I had read that he carried a pen knife (maybe 6263?) but gave away the 6333 small stockman? thanks. ft

No, the book just delved into his outdoor life as a youg boy, and the hunting and fishing he did to put some food on the table. It never mentioned a brand of knife, but only that he made a point the rest of his life to always have a small sharp "pen knife" on him. Like in the Auto biography of Chuck Yeager, they seem to use the term "pen knife" as a generic name for any small pocket knife.
 
Very early in his army career he was recognized as being an organizing genius. He was groomed for years by high ranking officers impressed with his mind, inluding General Marshall. It was no accident of fate, that although George Patton graduated a few years ahead of him, and was a superior officer, was passed by, by Ike, and was resentfull of him.

I always thought Patton was born about 80 years too late -- he would've been a brilliant cavalry officer during the Civil War, and of course was a great tank officer in WWII, but Patton seemed dismissive of the management aspects of modern industrialized war. You can't manage huge supply lines and other logistical stuff by yelling at them the way you can at recalcitrant enlisteds.
 
No, the book just delved into his outdoor life as a youg boy, and the hunting and fishing he did to put some food on the table. It never mentioned a brand of knife, but only that he made a point the rest of his life to always have a small sharp "pen knife" on him. Like in the Auto biography of Chuck Yeager, they seem to use the term "pen knife" as a generic name for any small pocket knife.

Jackknife,
Would anyone know at http://www.dwightdeisenhower.com/tourmuseum.html or http://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/ ?
 
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