Elegance???

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Socom Elite

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Anyone know when these will be out? I want one bad.

Also it sure does look like a William Henry.
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Looks like a William Henry? When did they go off shore for their knives??

While The Boker Plus line is nice, they are still made in the PRC - not quite up to the Solingen quality. Just my opinion!

Stainz
 
Wow!!! That's nice!!!
Definitely looks like a William Henry!

Is for sale already?




BETO
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Sorry for my english :o
 
The Boker Plus Carbon is nice too. Can't wait for these gentlemen's folders to get to the U.S. :thumbup:
 
This one caught my eye in the latest catalog too. :thumbup: It's a beauty, no question. The only concern I have is based upon my experience with the Boker Magnum Blitz. The Blitz is a button lock as well and is offered as an auto on the German market, but is "de-springed" for the US market. As a result of not having a strong coil spring exerting pressure on the blade in the closed position (trying to force it open), the blade drops down far enough into the frame that the edge rests against the middle standoff at the back of the handle, resulting in a dinged edge. I was able to fix mine by finding a black nylon bushing at the hardware store that had an inner diameter the same size as the standoff, sanding it to the right width, and then slipping it over the offending standoff. Now the edge rest against nylon rather than steel. Not a big deal on a $20 knife, but it would be a shame to have to similarly mod a much pricier knife. I'm not sure if this is common to Boker button locks that are made as manuals for the US market, or if it's just the Blitz, or if it's just my particular one, as the Blitz was my first and only button lock of any kind, but it's something worth considering. Maybe Terry can comment?
 
Interesting observation, Scott. My hope is that the Plus series gents knives were designed from the ground up to be manual openers. If that's the case, perhaps they won't exhibit the problem you ran into with your Blitz.

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G. Scott H. said:
This one caught my eye in the latest catalog too. :thumbup: It's a beauty, no question. The only concern I have is based upon my experience with the Boker Magnum Blitz. The Blitz is a button lock as well and is offered as an auto on the German market, but is "de-springed" for the US market. As a result of not having a strong coil spring exerting pressure on the blade in the closed position (trying to force it open), the blade drops down far enough into the frame that the edge rests against the middle standoff at the back of the handle, resulting in a dinged edge. I was able to fix mine by finding a black nylon bushing at the hardware store that had an inner diameter the same size as the standoff, sanding it to the right width, and then slipping it over the offending standoff. Now the edge rest against nylon rather than steel. Not a big deal on a $20 knife, but it would be a shame to have to similarly mod a much pricier knife. I'm not sure if this is common to Boker button locks that are made as manuals for the US market, or if it's just the Blitz, or if it's just my particular one, as the Blitz was my first and only button lock of any kind, but it's something worth considering. Maybe Terry can comment?
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The button lock also doubles as the stop pin in the closed position. The blade would be in the same place weather the spring was in or not.
 
Socom Elite said:
The button lock also doubles as the stop pin in the closed position. The blade would be in the same place weather the spring was in or not.
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You're right. I should clarify. On the Blitz, or at least my particular one, while the lock does act as a stop as well as locking the blade in the closed position, it doesn't stop the blade quite soon enough to keep the edge from impacting the standoff. When the blade is closed you can grab the spine and lift the blade about 1/16" out of the handle until it the tang actually contacts the lock and stops moving. In other words, mucho play. What I was suggesting is that the spring in the auto version probably keeps enough outward tension on the blade to keep it fully pushed up against the lock when closed, rather than allowing it to drop that extra 1/16" and hit the standoff. Don't know if that makes sense or not. :o In any case. Since this is the only button lock I've ever owned, I didn't know if this extra movement of the blade in the closed position was just due to some sloppy tolerances on the Blitz, due to it's low price point, or if it's an unavoidable feature of the button lock mechanism and, hence, present on all button locks (auto and manual alike). :confused::thumbup:
 
Yea, it makes sense. I think in your case a spring would help the problem, but isn't the cause of the problem. I would think that it's because the cut out in the blade tang where it meets the stop pin in the closed position was cut too deep. Letting it rest too close to the standoffs. If that makes sense to you. Kinda hard to explain in words.
 
You're right. I took the knife apart so I could see exactly how things lined up/fit together, and that's exactly the issue. The cutout in the tang that contacts the lock in the closed position is cut too deep. Could be something unique to this knife or perhaps just a particular run (I got mine when they first came out). In any case, I'm assuming the Elegance will be made with better tolerances. I really want one! :thumbup:
 
Yea, man by the looks of the pic is looks awesome. Other then that pocket clip, which looks horrible. This is a small folder though. 2 1/2"ish blade I think. So I would probably just take it off.
 
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