Elephant Ears

indian george

indian george

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I got a call from Uncle George Duross today he has some ears in, they are gray with black hi-lites. Need more info email me. I plan on using one for insert on the sheaths on my Springbok Fighters. :confused:
 
what the heck?

Please...more info, IG....
 
This is the address for the ears. I can't find his phone #
Uncle George's Duross
387 Switzer Hill RD.
Johnston NY 12095
 
What is the source of these? Can it be certain they came from animals who died naturally or is there a possibility they're poached?
 
Chiro75 said:
What is the source of these? Can it be certain they came from animals who died naturally or is there a possibility they're poached?
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I would hope they are culled or who died naturally animals. I didn't ask him.
 
What is the source of these? Can it be certain they came from animals who died naturally or is there a possibility they're poached?
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Either way you can be sure the animal doesn't nee them any more :D
 
Your sense of humor is funny, but on a serious side, am I the only person who is bothered by the fact that an animal with a long lifespan that could be on the endangered list (depending on species) could get capped for his tusks and ears? A lot of serial killers do the same thing, just with a different kind of animal, and not too many people are joking about that. I don't want to get into a discussion about who's more animal, less animal, who thinks, who has emotions, who is created in God's image, etc, but just on a purely humane level it would seem more than unfortunate to bring down an animal that has a life to live because you want some of his body parts and, more importantly, because you're willing to pay for those body parts.

There, I'm done with my animal rights rant. I like elephants and I always have, and I like animals, so it bothers me. If they're from animals who've died from natural causes then use up as much of his parts as you can, but don't blast some animal because he's got what you want and you're too impatient to wait for it. A year ago there was a puppy who had his ears cut off, with scissors, for adoption on the Today show. Guess he didn't need his, either, huh?
 
u are right, endangered animals should never be killed for prey. But there are certain reservations in Southern Africa where there are limited quota's set for elephant. Because of the strict anti-poaching laws there are area's where there is a overflow of animals. If u should use animal hides or tusk, only use those who are readily available. We have an obligation for our kids too. Hunting should not be considered inhuman, it is one of the most natural things to do, but that doesn't mean we have to eliminate every known species.

Greetz
 
I am not for promoting needless deaths of endangerd spiecies either but, also kenya has the largest wild elephant preserve in the world an it is necessaray from time to time to practice heard control. Those animals that are taken are not left lying on the ground to go to waste, every possible part of the animal is used on way or another.
 
guys....before we get into it too deep....


Why would I want these (as a knifemaker)? What are they for? I need even more basic info.....:o
 
elephant leather is kewl stuff. Last a long time and has a great texture.


Messing with it could still be problem though specially in California they will confinscate stuff that doesn't have papers on it.

Elephant hide is illegal in the US IIRRC.
That's why they don't make boots outa them anymore.

How about Pigs ears? you can pick them up at Wal MArt.

They don't kill pigs for their ears they kill them for their hams! :D :D :D
 
I didn't want to get into this.....I have in the past, used a fair amount of illegal elephant ivory. I don't look for it anymore and agree with chiro. I also realize that everyone has to make up their own minds though.


More to the point.....it's not just California that will grab the stuff. It's Federal and if you don't have papers with it, you could have a problem. I've seen Fish and Wildlife come into shows and take everything on the table because of a few undocumented ivory handles.

The moral is, if you are going to use it and don't have "ear papers" :eek: make sure who you are selling it to!

Gee....that's surprising, no rant at all today.
 
FYI - recent CITES rulings:
In 1997, responding to repeated requests from Botswana, Namibia, and Zimbabwe, CITES transferred the African elephant populations of those countries to CITES Appendix II. In 2000, the South African population was also placed on Appendix II, meaning that, depending on the country, the export of elephant skins, tourist trinkets made from ivory and skins, and live animals from populations in these countries was now allowed. Furthermore, Botswana, Namibia, and South Africa were allowed to export ivory on a one-time, experimental basis to Japan.
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The Elephant Skin Trade Under the 1997 decision, only Zimbabwe was allowed to export elephant skins. In June 1998, Zimbabwe sold 22 lots of dry, salted elephant hides, ears, trunks, and feet. The hides, accumulated since the 1989 ban, weighed 82.8 metric tonnes. Most of the hides were sold to companies in the United States and Japan. In the United States, elephant-hide cowboy boots are now offered by Tony Lama and Justin.
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Also under CITES F2 program there are allowable "domesticated elephant" products allowed form India and SE Asia.

There is also a small commercial source of elephant hide from SU elephants, dead zoo and/or circus animals.
 
Chuck, from your research, is there any type of documentation that accompanies the hides/ears, etc.
 
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