Elishewitz Quality

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Hello everyone,

Did anyone else on this forum experience liner lock problem with Elishewitz custom folders. The liner lock of my 2 month old Specter doesn’t have that sticky feel when you unlock the liner. In fact, it was so loose that I would accidentally release the lock when I white knuckle it. Although I’ve sent my knife back to Mr. Elishewitz for repair, it still wasn’t to my satisfaction. The lock still disengage with minimal force, though it doesn’t close involuntary when I white knuckle it. However, what’s more troubling is the fact that I could now slide the liner (with a push of my thumb) all the way to the far end of the tang with little force. While I’m no knife expert, I think the problem may be attributed by an overly polished, or misalign angles between the tang and liner. Les, I know you’re a strong advocate of customs over production…. And I don’t disagree with you. But the Specter is my first custom and I feel I got a beautiful looking $400 LEMON when comparing it to my production $90 Benchmade, Spyderco, or $325 Sebenza. Please note that I not bashing Mr. Elishewitz; In fact I think his design and ergonomic are among the best – that’s why I bought his knife in the first place. However, I’m deeply trouble by the fact that Mr. Elishewitz, as an expert knife maker, could have over looked an obviously defected lock.

Bob

 
Bob,
Set your topics back past Dec 1- you will find a thread titled Elishewitz old vs new. General consensus was that his while his liners once in a while are found lacking, he will happily do and redo until YOU are satisfied.
 
Bob; with one exception, all of my high end custom folders allow the liner lock to be released with no sticking or drag. It may be that you have become used to the less than perfect fit of production knives, which, in my experience, often are sticky and difficult to disengage.

However, as the gurus (guri?) above, who have each forgotten more about knives than I will ever know, have said, the custom maker should be able to fit the knife to your wishes. Walt
 
I had a similar problem with a Specter. The liner lockup was so tight, I broke my thumb nail releasing it. Sent it back to Allen and it was promptly returned with the lock so loose that I could easily unlock it with a good grip on the handle. I lived with it for a while until I noticed that the thumb studs
had loosened up to the point of rattling. Back it went. New thumb studs, same loose lock. I really loved the ergonomics of this knife not to mention the overall look but I'd had enough. Sold it for a loss and moved on.
 
My Elishewitz also came with a way-too-loose lock. I got multiple white knuckle failures before I sent it back. I sent him a note saying I'd rather it be a bit hard to disengage, than be too easy. He sent it back within two weeks, and now it may be my most solid liner lock in my collection. But it *is* real hard to disengage now (which I obviously can't complain about).

Allen has an incredible talent for combining great aesthetics with great ergonomics, great fit & finish, and solid edge geometry. He gets his locks up to snuff, I'll put him in my top rung of makers. I'm still seeing occasional questionable locks at dealers' tables though, sigh.

Send it back.

Joe
jat@cup.hp.com
 
Walt --

I agree, a well-done liner lock should be releaseable without much stickness or drag. However, white-knuckle failures (which Bob says he's seeing) are unacceptable in my book, and that means if the maker is going to have a drag-free lock, he'd better hide the liner slightly below the level of the scales. I think this is a bona-fide bug...

Joe
 
Thanks to all those who responded to my post.
I guss I'll sent it back to Mr.Elishewitz for another tune up.

Bob
 
Joe, as usual, I agree with you. Linerlock disengagement with white knuckles is NOT acceptable. Walt
 
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