Emerson Combat Karambit. Still cant decide on draw style.

N

NO F-Bdy Bs

Joined
May 3, 2007
Messages
247
Humm:confused:

I have been experimenting with the 2 draw styles, and have watched all the videos on the Emerson site.

Im right handed.
With the index finger in the hole, and the "forward pull" style, it seems that you can go straight to a slash as you are deploying the knife.
Whereas,,,
The rearward pull, pinkey finger in the hole seems you to require you to deploy the knife, then change directions before a slash can be made.

Thoughts?
Are there any other videos, or tips out there?

EDIT: This is assuming you are using the blade for defense purposes,.
 
NO F-Bdy Bs said:
With the index finger in the hole, and the "forward pull" style, it seems that you can go straight to a slash as you are deploying the knife.
Click to expand...
Exactly. Fastest way from the pocket to the target in my opinion.

So unless you're absolutely uncomfortable with the reverse grip I would carry it that way (in fact I do when I carry it).
 
Thats how i deploy mine,
Its easily the fastest way to get the blade into play :thumbup:
 
I've been sparring with my trainer lately, and while the reverse grip loses reach, it more than makes up for it with more surprising/unexpected attacks at grappling range, which is where real fights end up anyways.

I keep mine reverse grip.
 
With the kerambit the person you are "fighting" should not even see the blade. The real power comes from using the it in reverse grip because you use your whole body to attack, it all comes from the hips, just like a good boxer throwing a punch.
Kerambits are about butchering people on the sly. One should fight with it as though they have empty hands so reach is a non issue, as you should already be there. ;) :thumbup:
 
Haze said:
With the kerambit the person you are "fighting" should not even see the blade. The real power comes from using the it in reverse grip because you use your whole body to attack, it all comes from the hips, just like a good boxer throwing a punch.
Kerambits are about butchering people on the sly. One should fight with it as though they have empty hands so reach is a non issue, as you should already be there. ;) :thumbup:
Click to expand...

That's what I don't like about the reverse grip....you have to extend your body, leaving yourself vulnerable to counterattack. Even if you slash something vital, lots of times knives and guns don't work like they're supposed to.

This is why I can't envision a time when I'd use a knife in a fight, unless my opponent was so big that I couldn't take him down. I'll always do a take down or a joint lock before drawing my own weapon, especially if my opponent is armed.
 
357Wheelgunner said:
That's what I don't like about the reverse grip....you have to extend your body, leaving yourself vulnerable to counterattack.

I'll always do a take down or a joint lock before drawing my own weapon, especially if my opponent is armed.
Click to expand...

I agree and disagree :)

The kerambit is a sneaky weapon, you should really never be over extended, you use attacks like uppercuts with your elbows tucked in to cover soft spots or ripps to the torso, groin, legs, small of back etc.

Take downs and lock ups are of course an improtant part of the whole kerambit combat principle, as well as carry and deploy methods. Some attacks will only be effective if you have the person fully or partly restrained.
The kerambit is also used for lethal force, it seems now adays people believe its just for throwing out a few slashes and off you go (fighting). it just isnt like that ! Its for killing people, same as all edged weapons are.

I also regognise training often has little if any similarity to actual combat. it is just impossible to say "i would do this or that when this or that happens" you will do what you can when the oprtunity presents its self. This is true of any combat style i think.

Iv done Silat with a few different people now. it wasnt untill i trained in Asia kerambit use was taught properly to me.... as far as i can see that is, im a foreigner to them so im sure there was things kept from me :D :D :grumpy:

I dont want to come accross as arrogant but i have invested allot of time and money into the training i have done and have chosen who i train with carefully as well as had some good luck in finding teachers, so of course i belive im right ;):D:thumbup:
 
I'd have to go with Haze on the training type. I am doing some kali and silat. I am a new student and have yet to do more than the basic 5 strokes, so I placed my pinky in the hole and move in the training I have received.
I would go with what makes you more comfortable and proficient given your training (be it kali, silat, jkd, karate, krav, boxing...) and experience.
 
NO F-Bdy Bs said:
Humm:confused:

I have been experimenting with the 2 draw styles, and have watched all the videos on the Emerson site.

Im right handed.
With the index finger in the hole, and the "forward pull" style, it seems that you can go straight to a slash as you are deploying the knife.
Whereas,,,
The rearward pull, pinkey finger in the hole seems you to require you to deploy the knife, then change directions before a slash can be made.

Thoughts?
Are there any other videos, or tips out there?

EDIT: This is assuming you are using the blade for defense purposes,.
Click to expand...

allow me to answer a question with a question.


what the heck does your handle mean? :confused:
 
I prefer right front pocket for a Karambit unclipped, the finger hole orients the knife for the draw. It's easy to pop, finger or hook the knife open.
As an EDC a Cold Steel AK-47 in my back left pocket. I keep my wallet in my right rear pocket, change in the front left and keys in my front right. It's a bit extreme but all the Karambits I own are thinner and less durable.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top