Emerson endura with wave closer to handle?

stillshot2 · Apr 24, 2023

Was bored and did a quick n dirty Photoshop job of how I personally would prefer the wave to be on the Emerson endura, I feel it comes out too far down the blade and would be better off placed out of the way like Kershaw and Emerson himself does them. I put a little hole like how Spyderco does in their fixed blades to keep with the trademark but think it would be better off with no hole and just a Spyderco logo where the small blade hole is on my redraw.

Since if you have a wave you don't really need a thumbhole at all or could still open it slowly 2 handed if you didn't want to open quickly. Thoughts?

VashHash · Apr 24, 2023

I've seen mods where people just opened the hole to make a wave. That would probably be more to your liking. I've also seen someone cut the wave off the Emerson endura because they wanted that blade shape without the wave. Either way you could mod it to your liking and turn the hole into the wave.

This thread has examples

Wave mods - BESIDES zip ties?

Loving my little Delica Wharncliffe. It carries so small and light compared to my Yojimbo, while still carrying that nasty wharncliffe blade. I hope to never use my knife defensively, but I think about the possibility. In that vein, I've been contemplating adding a wave mod of some sort to...

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yablanowitz · Apr 24, 2023

Bad news, I'm afraid. Emerson and Kershaw don't put the wave on backlocks. With that much resistence your design would not provide enough levrage and would likely rip your pocket rather than opening the blade.

Danke42 · Apr 25, 2023

I have that style of blade/opener on an Emerson CQC-7 and then I have the Spyderco version on a Delica.

The Spyderco version is much better at consistently opening the knife.

norcalAF · Apr 25, 2023

I like the "wave" design on the dpx gear knives. Dual function as a bottle opener.

kreole · Apr 25, 2023

Not that I'm some SD expert, but I don't carry knives for SD that only have one means of opening, so I wouldn't support any modification removing the easy to use, almost foolproof hole as a backup opening method. I get the wave is not just for SD though.

Sal Glesser · Apr 25, 2023

Hi Stillshot,

I saw a variety of problems with the "hook" being so close to the pivot, especially for a back-lock. I did quite a bit of testing on the opening before I designed the "hook" where it is. I felt it worked much better at the current location that moved back to the pivot like you have it. Most of the response that I've received was that the Spyderco "hook" worked better than all of the others. Your mileage may vary, but I would stand by my design of the "hook" where I have it.

sal

stillshot2 · Apr 25, 2023

Sal Glesser said:
Most of the response that I've received was that the Spyderco "hook" worked better than all of the others.

Thanks for the response. Now knowing straight from the source why the design is the way it is I completely respect the decision to put the hook there

jstrange · Apr 27, 2023

Sal Glesser said:
Hi Stillshot,

I saw a variety of problems with the "hook" being so close to the pivot, especially for a back-lock. I did quite a bit of testing on the opening before I designed the "hook" where it is. I felt it worked much better at the current location that moved back to the pivot like you have it. Most of the response that I've received was that the Spyderco "hook" worked better than all of the others. Your mileage may vary, but I would stand by my design of the "hook" where I have it.

sal

It works great Sal. Any chance of doing the Endura Wave FFG?

yablanowitz · Apr 28, 2023

Probably not. The weight is needed to make the design work. FFG would likely be too light to work reliably.

oldmanwilly · Apr 28, 2023

yablanowitz said:
Probably not. The weight is needed to make the design work. FFG would likely be too light to work reliably.

Does the weight really matter that much? I've done the zip-tie "wave" on all of my FRN models with FFG blades (Police 4, Stretch 2, Pacific Salt, Endura 4, and Delica 4). Each of them flies open equally well when drawn properly. The biggest variable I've found is the design of the pants pocket: wave is 95% effective in Jeans but less so in slacks with slanted pocket openings.