Emerson Liners - How strong are they?

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Hi All,
I am looking to get a Super 8, but the thing that always bothers me is liners. They get weaker over long periods of time and use. Sometimes, over a good amount of time, some blade play develops. This is why for liner locks, I want a VERY strong liner.

Emerson liners look slim, but I guess they are titanium, which would mean they are stronger than steel.

Does anyone have input on this?
 
They aren't slim... Also, with Emerson's warranty being what it is, if the knife ever develops any play, they will fix it.
 
I can verify what docbp87 said. I have a CQC 13 that had developed some verticle blade play as well as horizontal. I filled out the warranty form, sent it in to Emerson, and had it back within two weeks with all blade play gone and the lockup adjusted so that it went from 90% back to 30-40%. It's super solid now.

Can't say enough about their service so far.
 
The older one are thinner. The new ones are like super thick.

And they will fix it any time anyway.
 
PropThePolecat said:
Titanium is lighter than steel, but not stronger. Its only stronger if they are compared with the same volume and not by weight.
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Well if titanium is lighter thank steel, then comparing their strength by weight doesn't make sense. You can compare weights per lbs for example. If it the same volume, this would mean they are the same size. Then that means Ti is stronger because 2 sets of liners, each in different materials, but the same size and volume, but a Ti lock can hold more weight than steel of the same size.

Ok so, are Emerson's liners titanium or steel?
How strong are they?
 
europeanoutdoorsman said:
Well if titanium is lighter thank steel, then comparing their strength by weight doesn't make sense. You can compare weights per lbs for example. If it the same volume, this would mean they are the same size. Then that means Ti is stronger because 2 sets of liners, each in different materials, but the same size and volume, but a Ti lock can hold more weight than steel of the same size.

Ok so, are Emerson's liners titanium or steel?
How strong are they?
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A 5 inch steel bar is stronger than a 5 inch titanium bar.

But titanium is much less dense than steel, so that same 5 inch titanium bar weighs 1/2 as much as a steel bar of the same size. So it wins in the strength-to-weight ratio.

In the end nothing of all this is important. The only thing that matters, is that "titanium" sounds cool, thus its better than everything else per definition.

:D
 
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europeanoutdoorsman said:
Ok so, are Emerson's liners titanium or steel?
How strong are they?
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I imagine they are plenty strong for the knifes intended tasks, which is cutting. I havent owned a Emerson, but ive owned other Ti linerlocks, amongst those Boker. I havent experienced any lock rock whatsoever on any Ti lockers.
 
The titanium liner lock is strong. I've been carrying a cqc-7 for about 3 years and have had no problems at all. The knife has been abused and it locks up just fine.
 
PropThePolecat said:
A 5 inch steel bar is stronger than a 5 inch titanium bar.

But titanium is much less dense than steel, so that same 5 inch titanium bar weighs 1/2 as much as a steel bar of the same size. So it wins in the strength-to-weight ratio.

:D
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This is correct. Ti has a better strength to weight ratio, but if we're talking about liners in a knife, they're obviously going to be the same size. Ti is weaker and much softer than steel. Steel liners will be stronger and will last a whole lot longer. That's why they put steel lock inserts in Ti frame locks, because steel will wear much, much slower. The benefit of Ti liners is the weight reduction, but you do sacrifice strength (both would bend before breaking, most likely, but steel will take more stress before doing so). They should both hold up fine in a knife, which is why Emerson uses Ti, but they'd have to service much less knives if they used steel, because steel liner locks last a very, very long time. Ti wears out noticeably quickly. Again, the benefit of using Ti is the fact that it is lighter, and that's why Emerson uses them, aside from the fact that Ti is associated with being more expensive, higher quality, more hi-tech, etc. :) If Emerson didn't do such a good job of servicing their worn out Ti liners, I'd rather take the little extra weight for steel because steel liners in those knives would probably last most people a life-time, whereas some people can wear out Titanium in a matter of few years or even months.
 
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