Emerson V grind questions?

EDDAKA

EDDAKA

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Hey guys,

I've recently (past couple months) been edc'ing my emerson CQC7. It holds it's edge nicely and I absolutely love the knife. It's a breeze to take apart, and the wave is a great feature.

However I don't necessarily like the chisel grind. It seems that the angle in which the knife actually cuts something is different than regular v grinds. I've gotten used to it, but I'm still on the fence about how i feel about it.

I recently saw the cqc-7aw and it looks like my beloved cqc-7BW but with a more "practical" grind.

I've seen a couple youtube videos, and read a couple things, and it seems it's not really a true "v-grind"? Some say that it looks like a v-grind but i actually still just a chisel.


So is it really a true, standard, nothing fancy, v-grind? or is it something more "emerson?"

I would also like to know if the same goes for the horseman, as I like that knife as well.

Thanks,
-Richard.
 
My Mini Commander is the same way, yes it has the traditional v shaped blade but it is only sharpened on the one side just like my 7B. The V shaped chisel grind is awesome for what it is worth. This also makes for easy sharpening, if it were easy to sharpen a recurve that is.
 
Richard--- You might want to get a Spyderco for utility cutting then. Or just get used to the Emerson. :cool:
 
Spyderco is good for that but honestly until I got the mini comm I just made due with the 7. Just me though, nothing to say you could not just carry both.
 
yeah, i got an a-100 pe, and she is nice, but doing precise long cuts in a box or paper things get outta control! so i am on the verge of sending it to tom krein
 
Chisel grinds will pull when cutting. The V grind is the way to go if you want straight cuts.
 
For a fighting knife, or at least a folding approximation of one, Emerson's factory design is about as good as it gets. I've taken to carrying the Commander that Krein did for me, and I've sent a couple more carry knives to him for the same treatment.

My problem is that I really don't find myself fighting off hoards of bad guys nearly so much as I find myself slicing open a box or doing something else with the blade...and while I often carry an extra spyderco knife for cutting, the lack of general utility functions with the Emerson bugs me a bit.

In my opinion, the Krein edge is what the knife should have come with, in the first place. This isn't to say that Emerson's single sided edge isn't ideal for a defensive (or offensive) edge...but it's not as versatile. I managed to wack the end of my thumb off inadvertently with a Commander in Basrah at the end of last year...didn't even realize it until I glanced down and saw my palm full of blood (on a new knife, no less...). The factory edge is sharp and effective at doing what it's designed to do, no question about it.

What I do like about the Krein edge is that he doesn't grind that much off. I was concerned about his grind making a fragile blade, but that doesn't appear the case.
 
none of the EKI's are a std "v" grind FWIW, not like say a spyderco delica PE, something like that, if ya want a std "v" ya aint gonna get it from EKI.

that said, nothing wrong with the grinds, they all work fine, a krein regrind is an excellent option on EKI's too FWIW,
 
How much does it cost from tom krein, and how long does it take? I'd like my cqc7 to be a v grind, but the cutting edge would be off center. (comparative to the handle.)

I think she she will stay a chisel for now. But if anyone has had tom krein regrind a cqc 7 to a v grind I'd love to see pics.

How much would tom krein charge to make a commander or horsman a v grind? how much metal would he take off?

For what it's worth I really love emerson knives. I like the Ti liner lock, I like how easy it is to dissemble, I like how "rugged" they seem. Wave feature is defiantly great to have too.

(PS: I would do almost anything for an HD-7! Or a specwar!)

Thanks for all the replies,
-Richard
 
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Richard--- Get at Tom, NOW!
He'll answer all your questions and... you'll thank me. :cool:
 
most of the EKI's i have seen krein re-do arent std "v"'s they are more of a zero bevel grind, i would rather have the ZBG than a std "v" anyway, i suppose he could "v" it though.

the ZBG mods the grind to were it has only 2 bevels vs the std 3 and is really sharp although possibly more apt to chip with really heavy use vs a std CG, its really really sharp though.
 
SIFU1A said:
most of the EKI's i have seen krein re-do arent std "v"'s they are more of a zero bevel grind, i would rather have the ZBG than a std "v" anyway, i suppose he could "v" it though.

the ZBG mods the grind to were it has only 2 bevels vs the std 3 and is really sharp although possibly more apt to chip with really heavy use vs a std CG, its really really sharp though.
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I would actually prefer this as well. The custom emerons seem to have that zero bevel grind, and several knives which I've handled from phil hartsfield (which I guess emerson based his grinds off of) are lightsabers. I've never had problems with chipping in things like a zero bevel scandi grind(and I prefer them.)

A zero bevel chisel would be super sharp and easy to sharpen.

Just no prying!

(After talking with tom krein he suggested a small bevel near the edge, to add to it's strength. However if a full zero is plausible, and not "super" weak, I'd prefer that.)
 
SIFU1A said:
most of the EKI's i have seen krein re-do arent std "v"'s they are more of a zero bevel grind, i would rather have the ZBG than a std "v" anyway, i suppose he could "v" it though.

the ZBG mods the grind to were it has only 2 bevels vs the std 3 and is really sharp although possibly more apt to chip with really heavy use vs a std CG, its really really sharp though.
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I have chisel ground and V-ground EKIs done by Tom. They all have a slight micro bevel forming the cutting edge but have been thinned out a good bit behind the edge with a very shallow hollow grind. The T.K. regrinds I have are sharp, no two ways, and they are on par with the likes of the ZBG on the ECA and custom Emerson knives IMO.

:):thumbup:
 
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