Emerson vs. Lansky (Mini-CQC7B)

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Hi, all.

I have a Mini-CQC7B, and I love her.

I just recently picked up a Lansky basic set -- and oddly enough, the 30-deg angle on the Lanky doesn't match the secondary bevel on the knife.

Is the Lansky or the Emerson correct? Is it worth the trouble to get a diamond Lansky stone, or spend hours regrinding the edge with the regular stone to match?

Is it possible that I could get a different system and find out that the Lansky is wrong?

Also, oddly enough, the front, short (not the belly) edge of the tanto/chisel grind (is this the primary or secondary?) doesn't seem to be consistent. Near the tip, it's wider than it is near the point where the two edges meet. Should I regrind it down to match?

Thanks for any advice.

-Jon
 
Greeting Hologon and welcome to about the most frustrating thing you are going to attempt to do with your CQC. That is regrind the edge. I own both the CQC7A and a Mach1. I have had to do both of the knives. What a bitch to do even with the Lansky diamond hones that I have. The 30 deg angle on the Lansky seems to be correct for 30 deg. Extremely steep angle on most knives but you are going to notice too that the 30deg on the Emersons seems to equate with about 15 or 20deg's on other knives. Just an altogether different breed. I for the life of me can't figure out when they are supposed to be the #1 hard use tools that they aren't easier to sharpen. It is my opinion that out towards the points just past the bellies can be ground steeper as on my Mach1 or shallower as on CQC. I reprofiled both knives to 30deg with the coarse diamond hone and then the medium, and then I used a med small hand held stone and med/fine triangular shaped stone to finish. Now this is on spear point shaped blades. I have the Mach1 to where it will cleanly shave hair yet has a very grabby and biting type edge. I probably have close to 4 hours altogether reprofiling it and then finishing it. Way to much of a hassle. I will say this if I knew then what I know now I would have never purchased the knives in the first place. I simply don't get it when it comes to trying to keep them sharp. I don't understand the single edge and yet the dual bevels. I have read about meaty sharp and scary sharp. Well my Mach1 is now scary sharp and that is the way I like it. Alot less effort goes into the cut. Do yourself a favor and get the diamond hones, at least a coarse and med. Mark the edge with a sharpie marker, and have at it. What you are going to find though on the tanto point model I think is to only do the bottom of the blade and forgo the Lansky for the tip. Try and do that free hand or send it in to EKI. If you aren't extremely careful what will happen is that you will round off where the two junctures meet for the bottom of the blade and the start of the point. Great choices I know but that is the price I have found of the tanto point if which I will never own any. I speak from experience on this. Not on Emersons but on a couple of other tanto points. Hope all this helps. If you had the spear points or drop points I would say use a well oiled bench stone of coarse and then med. grit. I think I have a technique similar to Rayes that will help now in this regards. Unfortunately once I commited to the Lansky I was stuck. Good luck and keep'em sharp.
 
Darn I was just about to order a cqc7a, BUT. I don't need a knife thats not user friendly. Why in world would they market a knife that is so hard to sharpen?

Mike
 
Mike I have no idea and have wondered the same thing myself. I have also on order a Commander I should get this week. A Xmas to my self and my wife purchased a CQC7A SF for me too. So I have all the Emersons I am going to want or need. I will say this with no slamming intended, but do yourself a favor and look at the SERE 2K. I own one of those too and without a doubt the finest production folder I have yet to own. The fit and finish is custom grade. Highly polished liners, thick scales that fit perfectly, and VG10 steel for the blade. The lock up is superb also, although I have not had a complaint in that regard as to the Emersons. Just sharpenability. Extremely frustrating and way to much effort required. Although I do have the Mach1 scary sharp now. I can shave hair on both sides of the blade and the canteled edge is pretty even. Didn't cob it up at all. I still don't understand the idea of the one side sharpened edge and the other not. Maybe someone can enlighten me as to the reasoning behind it. Keep'em sharp
 
imho i wouldnt rebevel it i would just free hand sharpen it - i dont like gatco/lansky etc i always end up scratching the blade installing the clamp, or working the rods, etc - and i promise ya if ya work w/the thing ya can get a razor edge w/a CQC7 w/a factory bevel, w/enough practice/work/the right stones - i used to think this was impossible, traded a CQC7 because i didnt like the edge - now, i start w/a fine norton india stone untill ya get a burr ya can feel on the reverse side, strop it, then polish the edge w/a spydie ultra fine ceramic and strop, polish/strop, and ya will suprise yourself w/the edge - i have done it on a CQC7 and a BM 975SBT, which i have worked on a lot and is REALLY sharp, smooth razor cut on arm hair, not grabby at all - just takes practice and the right stones imho - dont go to all the trouble to rebevel imho


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