ENCORE SHEFFIELD

[msierant]

greetings,
can i get a date when "encore sheffield" knives were made? would appreciate any info. thanks and best to all.
mike

 

[ed_is_dead]

"Turner’s cutlery and tools carried a trade mark with three horizontal diamonds. This mark later appeared with the word ‘ENCORE’ (‘granted in 1805’ and once used by Jonathan Hunt)."

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I have quite a few Thomas Turner ENCORE knives, some of evident age, but I certainly would not have thought any were that old. Most of the ones I have are roughly 1880 on.
Any pic of the knife in question Msierant? Assuming there is one.

 

[msierant]

"Turner’s cutlery and tools carried a trade mark with three horizontal diamonds. This mark later appeared with the word ‘ENCORE’ (‘granted in 1805’ and once used by Jonathan Hunt)."

Name on a Knife Blade: Sharpening Links between Cutlery & Communities

View the history of knife manufacturers in the UK and see if your name was once on a knife blade. Part of the Hawley Collection @ Kelham Island museum.

hawleysheffieldknives.com

I have quite a few Thomas Turner ENCORE knives, some of evident age, but I certainly would not have thought any were that old. Most of the ones I have are roughly 1880 on.
Any pic of the knife in question Msierant? Assuming there is one.

thanks much for that quick info. it's a 3 5/8 serpentine 2 blade. rogers bone, spear on main blade, narrow spey blade on small. i'm no expert but guessing maybe 20's or 30's vintage. just wondered when they stopped making them. thanks again and have a great weekend.

 

[waynorth]

While we are asking Sheffield questions, can anyone tell me when I*XL would be able to use the marking, V(crown)R?? Victorian era "warrant" I presume???!!
Knife also marked ENGLAND!!

 

[ed_is_dead]

thanks much for that quick info. it's a 3 5/8 serpentine 2 blade. rogers bone, spear on main blade, narrow spey blade on small. i'm no expert but guessing maybe 20's or 30's vintage. just wondered when they stopped making them. thanks again and have a great weekend.

Love to see some pics

While we are asking Sheffield questions, can anyone tell me when I*XL would be able to use the marking, V(crown)R?? Victorian era "warrant" I presume???!!
Knife also marked ENGLAND!!

That's an interesting proposal for dating. Reminds me of dating my tobacco knife that Bernard Levine gave his valued opinion on in the Sheffield golden yrs thread lately.
By that I mean all signs point to a definitive date window but it seems such guidelines are not always definitive and reading the knife is paramount.
Technically your knife *should* be from within less than a years period dating it to pre Victoria's reign end in 91 and the introduction of the McKinley act 90 but this is not ironclad.
Stamps were used past reigns using up stock, stamps were not changed that fast one might assume, old parts are assembled in later years, not all ixl knives were for export to the USA and myriad other potential reasons etc.
A pic of the knife in question might give an expert eye (read Jack) a better hint. Does sound interesting though and you would enrich the golden years thread with its inclusion.

Much like ENCORE. Most of my IXL are Edwardian era.

 

[waynorth]

A pic of the knife in question might give an expert eye (read Jack) a better hint. Does sound interesting though and you would enrich the golden years thread with its inclusion.

Thanks for your opinions, Ed!! I've gifted the knife, but expect to "borrow" it back to take pics!! I'll bring it up again soon!!