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Russell92

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I'm going to get an Endura to use mainly for defense. i want to get one of the newer models that has the metal clip so i can reverse it since i'm a lefty. i was in a gun shop today and saw one there. i don't remember what it said exactly but the blade material that was listed on the blade was something different than whats on my older delica. my delica has a G2 blade and this one started with and A but i don't remember the rest. is this blade material better than the G2? or should i try to find a G2 Endura?

also should i get a serrated, half serrated or plain blade on the knife? which is best for what i need the knife for?

i got my delica for $35 a couple years ago. i think the prices have went up at the place i bought it at. where should i look for the best price on a new Endura?

thanks in advance for any relpies.
 
Russ,
The blades on the newer models according to the Y2K catalog are listed as ATS 55, older models had Gin-1 or G-2 blades (same steel)
Latter should be an improvement.
Any of the BF banner dealers should be able to get you a good price or check out the "For Sale" forum.

Good Luck
recoil
 
Yo Russel92! - Welcome to the forums! Speak about Enduras - The plain edged zytel handles ATS-55 piece ROCKS!
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Its light and performs well! I have the serrated AUS-8 SS Endura II - This one is simply AWESOME!
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Anything more than that would be in G10 scales like the Military and Police! Because they ROCK!
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Sam

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Russell92- I prefer the fully serrated edge for self defense. The cut testing I have done proves to my satisfaction that any standard cutting technique is performed as well or better by a good serrated edge as opposed to a plain edge.

I also believe there are two distinct advantages to the serrated edge. The first is that it cuts on contact. When most people think about cutting with a knife, I believe that they are thinking of the classical ideal of being able to make unhindered strokes with good form and good balance. Training at our school shows this is not the norm. Many times you're off balance or not positioned correctly for that perfect form or execution. Sometimes all you can do to an incoming target (read that as attackers knife arm/hand)is use your blade to block it. There is where I feel the serrations are far superior to a straight blade as they will bite and cut no matter what the angle or pressure. To illustrate, I've taken my plain edged knives and simply pushed the edge straight into my arm using considerable pressure, all they left was a pressure mark. I tried the same thing with my Endura and with less than half the pressure I had a nice little row of bloody droplets where each tooth had penetrated.

The serrated edge also works well for passing and trapping. Because these techniques work by using pressure to manipulate your opponent, the serrated edge enhances your efforts by biting in and gripping, giving you a firmer contact, and cutting at the same time.

Of course nothing is perfect. I have found that big thick heavy quilted material is a good armor against serrated edges. But it's also good armor against plain edges as well. Against this kind of material, point work appears to be the most effective. And you just can't fault the Endura for point work.

Whatever you decide, the Endura is an excellent choice, I have two of them. I believe it is a knife you can stake your life on.

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[This message has been edited by Tonie (edited 08-23-2000).]
 
ATS-55 behaves in toughness and brittleness like 440-A, and cuts inbetween excellently done AUS-10 and ATS-34. Excellent choice of steel. Only ATS-34, VG-10 and CPM-440V outcut it, but all of these are not so tough as ATS-55. It's a relatively odd steel, because it has Cobalt and copper. It was designed specifically for knives, probably when the manufacturer saw ATS-34 was wanted in that branche.
I have an endura 98', zytel handled with a smooth edge. It's your basic workhorse, reliable like you've never seen before.
I love the not-brittle feel the steel has, especially if you ever chipped a Benchmade.

greetz, Bart.
 
I have been carrying a new delica and new endura for abt a month now.

The endura has a smaller curve in the handle (for your first two fingers)than the delica. you may end up only putting your index finger on the curve for the endura.

The zytel is rough so you need a bit of force to flick the endura blade open without your thumb.

If don't mind the price, why not wait for the new stronger-lock models to come out("Martial Blade Craft"), I think they are going to be the best in the business of "tactical" use.

They are the "Gunting" by BRAM FRANK, a really specialized knife for fighting with or without using the edge, the "Chinook" by some one called Keating, which is basically a folding bowie knife with a very strong lockback, the "Temperence" by SAL GLESSER, a Spyderco-style knife with a handle for martial arts use and a very strong new lock.

I see the endura as mainly a working knife, less so a tactical one, but it can be used for defense too, I would think mainly cutting and not so much thrusting.

You might want to grind down the release catch on your endura, it is positioned a bit higher up on the handle, unlike the delica's, which is roughly in the middle. This makes it
possible(for me) to press the release catch inadvertantly when I squeeze the handle tightly.

I think the endura is a very good knife for its price.
 
The Endura is an excellent knife, I carry one on a daily basis (right now in fact a plain edge and a g10 harpy ;0)
The Endura is sharp, light and fast into action. For general utility I like plainedge,
for defense serrated, but the truth is both will work well as long as they are kept sharp.
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Be safe,
Chad

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