EOBP Gov't Sponsored Relief Camps, good or bad?

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SkunkWerX

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EOBP= Events of Biblical Proportion.
I don't put Katrina into that category. Think more like the Asian Tsunami.
A major earthquake that crumbles SanFranciso.

There will be those huge events where the government will need to care for the people. They will invariably bring in food, medical help, tents shelters and trailers for a large amount of people. As they should. People who have no where to go, no homes left, and no prospects for picking themselves up by their boot straps right a way.

These wouldn't be detention camps, they would be Relief Camps & Shelters.

??SO, left homeless, would you voluntarily go to one of the Relief Shelters??

Let me add, if any of us had a broken leg, were seriously injured, or whatever, yes, maybe we would seek some medical attention?

I don't tend to follow the masses, the sheeple, nor the lemmings.
Colds, Flus, and other sickness would be more prevalent anywhere there are a lot of people in less than nice conditions.

Food and Water would probably drive most people to seek help.

In this situation, what would you do to survive??

Thoughts?
 
There will be those huge events where the government will need to care for the people. They will invariably bring in food, medical help, tents shelters and trailers for a large amount of people. As they should. People who have no where to go, no homes left, and no prospects for picking themselves up by their boot straps right a way.
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Ummm, Katrina didn't happen that way. What the Gov did was bring in the Mexican army with supposed kitchen duty and mercs who, armed to the teeth, went from house to house finding the dead, beating up old ladies, ousting those that survived from their homes and then hurding them all into a holding area. Little food, little water, no sanitation and no security.
 
The truly broken example of Katrina aside, I believe the decision as to whether I'd voluntarily go to the relief camps would be dependent upon my circumstances at the time of the event. Things that would play a major part in the decision making process are:

- How old are my children at the time? Young children are not suited to rough travel, e&e activities, and so forth -- especially young children who have been raised with the comforts of modern society. Older children, however, mid-teens and later, can be expected to adapt better so long as you can clearly explain the game to them.

- How old am I and what's my health? My decision to go to a shelter really rests upon the sort of shape I'm in and therefore my chances of successfully engaging in e&e. In my middle 40's and in good health? Sure, I might resist the camps, if only so I can get back to my family. But 30 years from now, overweight and maybe suffering from heart disease ... definitely the picture will change.

- Did the event leave me undamaged? All other things being equal, if a large block of cement falls on my leg and crushes it in that earthquake, my guess is I'm heading straight for the FEMA camps whether I like it or not.

- Do I have anywhere to go? Assuming bugging out is the appropriate course of action (such as was the case in Katrina), whether I decide to resist the camps really depends on whether I have an alternative location to go to, and my chances of getting there. I live in California. At present I have relatives in Arizona and Minnesota. If there's an event localized to CA such that I want to bug out, well, how hard will it be for me to get to AZ? If the event makes AZ not an option, how about MN, which is after all a half a continent away?

So, you see, making these decisions ahead of time is an interesting exercise. But, really, the final decision would come down to your exact circumstances at the time of the event.
 
Bow can you post any links about the Mexican army and heavily armed Mexican mercenaries beating up old ladies and herding them into holding areas? Thanks.
 
Most of what I'm refering to, was shown on network news. The Mexican army went into the area in a convoy of trucks and it was reported that they were going to set up kitchens and the like, but I never heard anything else about them. They weren't Mexican mercs. Talking about blackwater ops. Paid mercenaries. Beating up old ladies was more sarcastic than anything, because of the one old woman that was asked by what appeared to be a combo LEOs and Mercs, taped on TV, whether she was armed and she showed them an old pistol and they tackled her and took her weapon.:mad: And of course, who could forget the dome where they placed all of those people and then forgot about them. Leaving them to fend against rapists, thugs, etc. It was the private citizens that gave up their time and took their expertise to help the people there.

To be honest, I don't see how the gov will be able to respond differently for any disaster of that magnitude. It will always be a military/tactical exercise and they only know how to do things one way. Put up fences and keep people behind them and under control. You walk into the *rescue center* with your gear and you will lose it. Go in with a weapon and who knows.
 
Well guys. Don't need no stinkin' relief camps. You can go play that game, hombres, but leave me out. You really think anybody's going to help your ass? (and by the way hombres...just because I said I was 1/4 Mexican...I'm also 1/4 Scotch...1/4 Welsh...and 1/4 German. American Mongrel. GSY)
 
Coldwood, hermano, take it from an old Irishman, if you are 1/4 Scotch, you are dead drunk! now, 1/4 Scottish I might believe!;) :D

Codger
 
Okay, so now I'm 1/4 Scotch. It's the 1/4 Welsh and German that are bogging me down! :D
 
Did you hear about the Scotch who worked at the DiaryFarms? ButterScotch.

I'm Scotch-Irish decent.
Like the crazy guy in Braveheart who talked to god.
"Do I gat to kill the Anglish??"
 
at the moment i would most likely hang out here and keep away from the camps. we have a friend up the street, and we could get together with them and group our food etc. unless of course someone was hurt, then we would most likely send that person with one of the adults to a shelter, and keep the rest here. i don't know though...it would really depend on the exact situation at the time. there are so many variables that come into play...
 
Ookay, Skunk, now you've opened the floodgates :D Let the games begin...

What do the Irish call a 7-course dinner? A six pack and a baked potatoe.

Why did God invent the wheelbarrow? So the Irish could learn to walk on their back legs.

What do you call an Irishman under a wheelbarrow? A mechanic.

What do you call an Irishman in a wheelbarrow? A designated driver.

So Paddy and Sean are on the roof of a three-story building in Dublin, of which the first story is a whore house, repairing the slate shingles. They break for lunch and the next thing you know they see Rabbi Lippschitz coming down the street and he ducks into the front door.

"Can you imagine that Sean?" says Paddy. "A fine man of the cloth like the Rabbi frequenting a house of ill repute?!"

So they have another beer for lunch and here comes Rev. Darlington of the Church of England, and he ducks in the front door.

"Look at that, Paddy," says Sean, peering down three stories. "A prince of the church, going to see a whore!"

So finally they eat a sandwich just in time to see Father Carrigan coming down the street, and he ducks into the front door.

"Wouldja look at that?!" they both say at once. "There's a poor girl dyin' in there and the Father's come to give her Last Rites!"


So Paddy and Sheila are celebrating their tenth anniversary, and Paddy says "D'ya remember Sheila when we first met and we used to have sex all the time?"

"Oh yes Paddy, that was grand."

"And do you remember Sheila when I used to grab you by the back legs and play wheelbarrow, and push you all over the place?"

"Oh yes Paddy, that was grand and so much fun!"

"Would you like to be doin' that again Darlin?"

"Oh yes Paddy, but this time let's don't be goin' past me muther's house!"
 
I would avoid any kind of camp like the plague. That said, I think they would play a very valuable role, that being keeping lots of the riff-raff out of circulation.
 
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I would avoid any kind of camp like the plague. That said, I think they would play a very valuable role, that being keeping lots of the riff-raff out of circulation.
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AMEN Brother

Never , ever become a refugee. If you have a broken leg and you are alone I guess you have little choice but if you do have that choice , by God take it.
 
Assuming the govt could organize something after EOBP, it would completely depend on the circumstances. It may work out that a govt shelter is the only place to go. I think few people, myself included, would accept if they had better options.

Speaking of earthquakes, ISTR the largest historically recorded earthquake in North America was centered smack dab in the bootheel of MO. A place like CA has a long history of relatively frequent earthquakes, and has building codes to help compensate. As a result, large quakes wreak havoc on things like traffic, but result in surprisingly few deaths. But in the midwest, when a quake hits again, all those old brick and mortar buildings are gonna crumble like a house of cards. St. Louis, Memphis, and possibly beyond, may meet that EOBP level.
 
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