epoxy in filework?

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Is there a trick to keeping the epoxy out of the filework on a full tang when gluing the slabs on?

or at least a good way to clean it up after epoxying slabs on?
 
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Some 35 years of boatbuilding with epoxies hasn't helped the brain cells, but has helped with clean-up on my file-worked knife projects. I use WD-40, a soft cloth, and a glue brush with bristles cut short, for stiffness, to clean-up. WD-40 is a moderately aggressive solvent for epoxy,( which will not pull the epoxy out of your joints), will not promote rust on your blade, or bleach any handle material I know of. The petroleum residue left will also usually allow you to pick off any overlooked ball of epoxy after hardening.

Acetone is a more aggressive thinner, so much so as to pull epoxy out of places you want it to stay. It also bleaches some woods, dries the steel thereby promoting rust, and as a fast drying thinner, can leave a thin layer of hardening epoxy where you don't want it. It's flammibility and health risks are, I hope ,obvious. It's useful for parts cleaning, however.

De-natured alcohol is a very aggessive solvent, much safer in use, but with the same problems of rusting and bleaching as acetone.

Tolulene is a slower evaporating solvent preferred in the marine industry, safer in use than acetone, but still not something I feel comfortable reccommending, when good old WD is so effective, relatively safe, and leaves your steel and handle material in good shape for further treatment.

Finally, no solvent should ever be used to clean epoxy off your skin. The drying action will allow the hardeners to promote skin sensitizing, which, believe me, you don't want. NON-ABRASIVE Gojo is about the best easily available skin cleaner.

The various resists, vaseline, crayola, etc, will work quite well. I just don't like picking about on 1000 grit finished metal or polished ivory, or finding "epoxy prints" on the work later. When the knife has been thouroughly cleaned with WD-40, I can examine it under a strong light, and then gun-oil the finished product. Still, "there must be 50 ways..."

Too much info?

JOHN
 
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Try putting vaseline in the grooves of the filework before you use the epoxy. After the epoxy has set for a while it should be easy to pick the epoxy out with say a piece of pin material tapered to a point.
 
Dyes are made to color the epoxy and then fill in the fileworked areas. It looks very nice when done well.
 
Not at the moment. K&G sells the dye I think. I have some a friend gave me it is black. He mixes the dye into the epoxy he is attatching the scalds with and spreads and fills in the filework at the same time he is putting everything together. When he starts finishing he fills in any pinholes with fresh dyed epoxy.
 
Ah well, I don't really have the money to order dyes right now... I'll remember that in the future though.
 
Try putting vaseline in the grooves of the filework before you use the epoxy. After the epoxy has set for a while it should be easy to pick the epoxy out with say a piece of pin material tapered to a point.
This is what I do, too. After the epoxy is set it just pops right off.
Later,
Iz
 
Holy hell, I am going to try that tomorrow on my handle edge (not worried about filework, it's the front of the handle scales I have problems with)! I always fight with acetone and hate it when I end up sucking epoxy out and get a gap and have to redo things.
 
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Or, you could just leave the filework off. Filework does not a custom knife make. Filework in some cases can add interest to the knife, but it is entirely overused. I see so many guys filework a sub-standard knife and really think it makes the knife special.
If you must do filework, just grease the cuts-epoxy won't stick there.
 
I dont use epoxy on full tang knives. I clamp them first and wick thin super glue in around the handle slabs. Epoxy takes up space and shows most of the time. Super glue is black or will take on the color next to it.
 
Hmm.. do you happen to have a pic for reference? I guess I never thought of just filling in the filework with the clear epoxy.

Hello Dustin,

Here is a pic from a few years back. No dye was used. Just used clear Devcon expxy with saw dust from the wood mixed in. As you can see, you have to look really hard to see where the fill is.

Eric
 

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I really don't wanna derail the thread, but Bruce, I'm interested in your technique. I usually either epoxy (for oilier woods) or use gorilla glue. Gorilla glue works fantastically well for a lot of handles becuase it's a solid tight-as-the-wood-can-handle clamp.

But clamping down wiht the pins in an wicking superglue.... completely new thought to me!
 
A lot of good ideas here. I didn't expect so many varied responses but, thank you every one. That filework with the sawdust and epoxy fill in looks great efleming. I might have to try that.

Bill - I've already done the filework. And you're right, I do think it makes the knife look special although I agree it's done on a lot of knives. Thanks for your input.

Bruce - Whenever I use super glue I always seem to glue more of myself than what I'm actually trying to glue. lol Thanks for your tip though. I'll have to try it out.
 
Hmm.. do you happen to have a pic for reference? I guess I never thought of just filling in the filework with the clear epoxy.

Heres a poor picture of this done on a knife I did a while back. This one had a few small pinhole bubbles that I later had to fill....This is just black dye in epoxy....

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I really don't wanna derail the thread, but Bruce, I'm interested in your technique. I usually either epoxy (for oilier woods) or use gorilla glue. Gorilla glue works fantastically well for a lot of handles becuase it's a solid tight-as-the-wood-can-handle clamp.

But clamping down wiht the pins in an wicking superglue.... completely new thought to me!

Try it, You'll like it. I havent epoxied a scale on for years.
 
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