Equal End Oddballs

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The thread on "knife knomenclature" got me thinking about GEC's use of names for their knives, which often stray a looong way from accepted pattern names. Here are a couple more on the equal end frame.

Inside 2: Big Horn Moose (2-spring), Outside 3: Whittler (3-spring)
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Technically (LG4), would these just be derivations of cattle knives, or what? Please post any name suggestions, or what you think they should be called.
 
The 3-springs seem like Cattle knife variations to me. I only think of split or wedged spring knives as having Whittler construction.
The Moose pattern knives have some claim to being called by that name.
 
Jeff, that Green acrylic?? Is a really sparkling knife, good with the slanted bolsters as well.

The latest 53 is single spring so it could qualify as Giant Pen....been toying with getting one but it could be too heavy for me, not sure.

Thanks all, Will
 
Will, they call that one Green Velvet, only 18 made in the whittler, called a Factory Test Production Run.
 
This was part of a post by Elliott in this thread.
According to Levine's Guide (IV), the two bladed double-end, equal-end jack is also known as a bull-head. (A derivative of the aforementioned cattle pattern.)




I remember there being a dispute during the 2010 Forum Knife discussions about whether or not the pattern should be called a Moose or Bull-Head. In fact, that's the only reason I knew of the term to be able to search for it. I have since wondered whether or not the quotation marks on the box label were in reference to this.
 
I just LOVE this Equal End Jack, I have just finished sharpening her up-and it takes an edge VERY nicely-which is probably good considering my skills in the sharpening world :o
Is this a usual Equal Ender?..or are the Equal End Jacks usually a twin bladed set-up? as this is more like a HJ set up in a Equal Ender body :)
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The 3-springs seem like Cattle knife variations to me. I only think of split or wedged spring knives as having Whittler construction.
The Moose pattern knives have some claim to being called by that name.

Agree on both. Whittlers IMO have split/wedged springs. Nothing wrong w/ a Moose (or Muskrat) having two springs in an equal end frame.
 
This topic becomes muddied quickly because the names that many of these patterns claim also have commercial or trademark aspects. When does a "muskrat" become a "moose" or a "moose" become a "bullhead"? As a longtime KnifeNut but only a recent forum member, it's always interesting to read the comments of the "regulars" on this forum. Sometimes I agree ... sometimes I don't - but I always come back because this a great collection of generally like minded individuals.

Since knives are tools (first and foremost IMHO) it seems that any pattern's name should at least reflect it's original work intent. But, as stated earlier in this thread - sometimes the construction is intimately connected to the "usual" name of the pattern. Having said all of this - what kind of "nut" am I that I really enjoy EDCing a GEC BJM that is named after a cartoon character! I'm finding the spear very useful, the size handy - and the serpentine shape visually pleasing.

The thread on the folders recovered from the sunken riverboat clearly shows that many modern patterns and iterations were commercially available prior to the ACW. A review of past and present folders shows enough variety to keep a KnifeNut "out of the taverns and poolhalls and off the streets" for a long time. I always learn something new about trad folders every time I come to this forum so it's always worth my time to visit and occasionally comment. This is a "great" forum and I feel very fortunate to have stumbled upon it. Thank you -

Scott D
 
Duncan, GEC have produced many variations of handle material in the equal end harness jack, with both spear and clip mains.

Here is the listing from their website, all from 2008:

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The one you show seems to have been made in the largest numbers of any (542208P) . . . a good choice, I'd say, as it's gorgeous!
 
Thank you Jeff, much appreciated, this gem was gifted to me by my good friend ( of whom I must ring soon ) Anthony - SunnyD
 
The 3-springs seem like Cattle knife variations to me. I only think of split or wedged spring knives as having Whittler construction.
The Moose pattern knives have some claim to being called by that name.

True enough Charlie but I find it interesting that according to Levine, the term Whittler was fashioned by the collectors of the knife you describe - split or wedged spring knives - and not by any manufacture. Soooooo, it would seem that collectors (or a company) could expand a pattern's name to include a 3-spring knife such as shown by Jeff and call it a whittler.

Just thinking with my fingers here - not trying to be argumetative.
 
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