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I own now 4 ESEE's and I think it was Jeff Randall that told me the 6 has seen some use in the military. Just out of curiosity, how do you guys think the 6 would fend being used for combat/fighting purposes. I think that the blade thickness would be ideal, length would be optimal for anyone who appreciates reach and intimidation factor(keeping enemy at a distance) and it has an exelent (in my mind) reverse grip. What do you guys think?
 
The 5 would be better. How would a knife do? Hmmm....
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I have no experience with hand to hand combat with knives but the 6 wouldn't be my choice. Its too thin and Micarta is a really slippery substance. Especially if you're wearing gloves or have dry hands. If I had to pick a knife for self defense purposes It would be the Scrap Yard Regulator. Incredibly thick, much sharper point, and a grip that would never slip.
 
Hoo, boy, you just opened a pretty serious can of worms here. Even the real "experts" (most of whom are on active duty in the military) can't agree on this one.

I'm not going to go on a tirade here, but the ESEE 6, much as I like it, is not now and never will be a "fighting" knife. Which is not to say you couldn't mess somebody up pretty good with one.
 
Compare the ESEE 6 to the Spyderco Warrior. If I were going to fight with a knife (which I'd rather not!), the Warrior is what I'd choose.
 
Many people dislike the Spyderco Warrior, but if i were to have to choose 1 knife for combat use, it will be the Warrior.
The Syderco Warrior has H1 steel which doesn't rust or stain from blood and sweat. Extended tang for glass breaking, a non slip grip with hand guards.
The only downside is it's sheath though...
 
The spyderco warrior is a pure reverse grip (fighting) knife, and would very likely serve poorly at all other tasks.
 
If I were in the military, I would want a knife that's great for everything else, then maybe for fighting. It's more likely that it will be used as a tool, and less as a weapon. It could still save your life, maybe cutting you out of a downed aircraft, ala ESEE 5. Maybe the knife can save your life in a fight as well, but how often does that really happen?
I just don't imagine it's happened too often, you know with guns. I'd rather carry a Tomahawk for fighting, than a knife.
 
Yeppers. If I had to pick just one, I'd go with this one at this moment. (Tomorrow it may be something different.)

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Good hell, guys, its an effing knife, here. D154 is asking if it can do multiple tasks. I think the 6 just might be the best all around knife I own, and said as much to my daughter last night. If I had some guy waving a 6 in my face with a serious look on his face, I wouldn't worry about whether or not there would be a better knife out there than the one he had trying to stick me with. And on the user end, I would wholeheartedly take the Esee 6 into combat. I would like it most because it could do the most jobs, and a lot of them the 6 could do with excellence, and a few jobs it would do lousy, but still get the job done. just my opinion.
 
He did not ask about "multpile tasks", he asked if it was a good combat/fighting knife. Surely you must admit there are better "FIGHTING / COMBAT" knives out there than the ESEE 6. Nothing in the ESEE line is for fighting, though for combat utility a case could be made in there defence. ESEE, would tell you to buy another knife for fighitng too.
 
Youre right, he didn't ask if it would do multiple tasks. He asked how it would do as a combat knife. Yes, there are better, but in my lack of focus, I wanted to assure him that using an Esee 6 in an offensive role would get the job done just fine.
 
Thanks for all of your responses guys! I assumed that the 6 would make a decentfighting knife, although yes, I do know that it is more utility/heavy duty cutting oriented. The only "true downside in my mind would be its broad tip; which is obviously not designed primarily for penetration. It is designed for belly. The only reason that I brought it up was because I know that the 3 and 4 are popular choices among troops.
 
When deciding whether a knife can be an effective weapon, simply follow this questionaire:

Is it big and pointy?

If yes, you can definitely use it to stab someone. If no, you'll probably have a hard time stabbing someone with it.

As an aside, I have met a hell of a lot of veterans over the years but I have yet to meet one who has used a knife in hand-to-hand combat. Almost every member of the military I know, whether reg force or reserve, carried a knife of some kind on their tour, but they didn't use them to shank people - they were used to open IMPs and every other kind of odd job you can think of. I don't really understand why some people automatically assume that military personnel use knives exclusively for stabbing people, but it isn't even remotely commonplace in today's armed forces...
 
Frozy said:
Many people dislike the Spyderco Warrior, but if i were to have to choose 1 knife for combat use, it will be the Warrior.
The Syderco Warrior has H1 steel which doesn't rust or stain from blood and sweat. Extended tang for glass breaking, a non slip grip with hand guards.
The only downside is it's sheath though...
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WOW, I've never heard of a positive for a combat knife being that it "doesn't rust or stain from blood"! I'd hate to image the scenario where you are concerned about rust because of the amount of blood on your knife. I'd say things had gone south several days before that should be a concern...
 
michaelmcgo said:
WOW, I've never heard of a positive for a combat knife being that it "doesn't rust or stain from blood"! I'd hate to image the scenario where you are concerned about rust because of the amount of blood on your knife. I'd say things had gone south several days before that should be a concern...
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Trust me, even VG-10 rusts from just lying around on my table for 2 months in Singapore. That's why i like the idea of Warrior's H1-steel. :)
 
I think knife fighting would be way down on the list of uses for any knife in theater. I would focus more on blade utility than fighting capability. Don't know what he's doing, but even if he is carrying an M9 or M11, that is even way down on the list from his primary weapon.

Training is more important with blade use than the type of blade, and few soldiers get this type of training. I would take a 6, 4, or 5 in a heartbeat.
 
Haha you guys are great. I know the statistical realities of needing to use a blade in combat, but I know that I would want to make it another layer of defense. I do know two marines that have trained extensivly in cqc with knives. and from the sounds of it, i know that at least one of them carries a boot knife, a kabar horizontally accross his belt for quick access. the other carries his ontario fighter, and a benchmade griptilian when he has toured. I do know that these boys take cqc VERY SERIOUSLY. And personally as being a martial artist my entire life, I understand perfectly well the realities of it too. Im sure that every soldier, (unless they are sealss being trained to take out sentires) wouldnt even have to worry about it. but they still recognize it as a reality, and train for it. in all honesty cqc is not that uncommon. what IS uncommon, is pulling out a knife to use durring it. I would personally have a bar stool!
 
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